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'Mass casualty event' as Baltimore Key Bridge collapses

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Mar 26, 2024.

  1. Brainman

    Brainman Well-Known Member

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    It looks like it lost power, sent a mayday message which enabled them to stop traffic, slung out its anchor but drifted into the bridge.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    That's all sound imo.

    I took my RYA offshore boat licence when I lived in the South of France. I was amazed at the level of responsibility you had to accept.

    I had the family down so prepared our boat for days, loaded the food & wine and set out from Cannes to St Tropez. Halfway there, on a beautiful day, we were having a wonderful time. We came across a stranded boat which had hit something in the water and was taking in water. We had no option but to abandon our voyage and give assistance ... balls <doh>

    We brought them on board, attached a tow line and took their boat into St Raphael ...

    ... we'd have been in serious bother if we'd ignored them.

    Most of our party would've let them drown <laugh>
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    A new low even for Barton
     
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  5. young2077

    young2077 Well-Known Member

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    If that's genuine he has now deleted it?
     
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  6. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Just seen a video of dashcam footage of someone driving over the bridge the other week. Really shows the scale of what has went.
     
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  7. Flash Gordon

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    It'll obviously have been a canny old whack, but it's insane how easily that bridge just seems to collapse.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

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    It's horrific isn't it.

    Sadly the stresses are expected to be downward from the traffic going over.

    The bridge deliberately has little sideways resistance so winds will pass through.

    It's a miraculously low death toll when it could've been hundreds during the morning rush hour.
     
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  9. Son of Baxter

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    There will definately be a pilot on board for a ship of that size but is only there to give advice to the Captain so the buck stops with the Captain especially if it is a fault with the ship. Sometimes the Chief Engineer too, if one of the many systems fails. I would imagine it will take a long blame game for ths to get resolved. A lot of ships these days are under manned and maintenance cost are huge and its usually a maintenance issue somewhere down the line for a system failure or the equiment becomes old and is not replaced.
    I am not sure When the bridge was built but if old then probably built before the huge container ships that now run under the bridge. I heard today that modern bridges have concrete structures built around the legs to protect them. If not then in the likelihood of a collision of this magnitude then total catastrophic failure of the bridge is likely. In my view if they increased the size of the ships, even with dynamic positioning systems and 100% redundancy, then an accident was waiting to happen .I beleive this is not the first time this has hapenned around the world. There have been quite a few major disasters in history and probably will be again I am afraid.
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Quite right, you'll never stop planes crashing or boats going adrift.

    What worries me is the increasing reliance on computer technology. It's only last week they were showing remotely controlled crewless ships.

    When car thieves can 'grab' the signal from your remote control, then drive it away, it worries me what terrorists could do with air traffic control systems, shipping and even traffic lights. We know China and Russia have hackers attacking Western banks and other establishments, what next?
     
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  11. John Wick

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    Mate of mine has been in touch (lives there) and told me that word over there is that there were road works getting carried out on the bridge at the time.
     
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  12. Son of Baxter

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    I Agree Smug. Whe I first worked on ships in1971 they generally had a crew of 40 when I left 35 years later we had a crew of 11 to 15 depending
    on what we were doing. I was a trained Engineer and at the beginning we had electricians and all kinds of skilled men sadly towards they end everything became totally automated the whole dynamic positioning system was run by 3 computers so if one became suspect with perhapsa faulty input signal the other 2 would vote that computer out. Unfortunately if you get contaminated fuel all the computers in the world won,t help. Technology is all very good until something very basic goes wrong.
     
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  13. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    Mr "I'm not sexist but..." at it again.

    He really is a lowlife piece of **** isn't he
     
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  14. John Wick

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    People pay for the daft c**ts opinions aswell. I 99.9 percent ignore the dickhead but stuff like this boils my piss.
     
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  15. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

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    If you haven't already seen it, watch a film called "Leave the world behind",mate.
     
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  16. Son of Baxter

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    Yeah I will take a look, I have been looking for something to watch of late. Cheers!
     
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  17. Nads

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    Did I read same boat had smashed into something else not so long back?

    If that’s true, and it’s a similar cause, someone is culpable.
     
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    My wife stopped my physical response to people 25+ years ago. Long story but is was her or my behaviour. Just checked and she says I have a pass on him if ever the opportunity presents itself :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    Great to hear mate ...

    .. will make watching News at Ten all the more interesting.

    'Popcorn GIF'.
     
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  20. John Wick

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    I wouldn't waste my time mate, he's a f**kin clown that thinks of himself as some sort of highly intelligent misunderstood person when in reality he's just a thug that managed to get away with thuggery in 2021. Not worth the steam off anyone's ****.
     
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