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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    I’d rather give Beale another go than give Loser Lampard a shot.

    Bart
     
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  2. monty987

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    Mourhino, Zidane, Conte are available
     
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  3. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Because plenty of them have behaved exactly like that.
     
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  4. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Go on...
     
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  5. FTM Dave

    FTM Dave Well-Known Member

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    Aren't they a bit old school and past it, Monty? Surely we can do better than them.
     
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  6. Bob the Mackem

    Bob the Mackem Well-Known Member

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    Imagine if he asks for a transfer kitty, and gets a big NO.
     
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  7. GreyHorse

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    I think Steve Cooper's strong coaching background (with England youths, Liverpool academy) would be a good fit for us. Obviously he may prefer to wait for a bottom half PL job (and the money that goes with it), but he may also have learnt from the battle at Forest and want to be part of a building project.

    As post Mowbray, the overall list is quite uninspiring. I think Lampard recently said he was finished, but I wouldnt be against it. 2 years ago we would have jumped at the likes of Stevie Gerrard (if he brought his next level coaches with him :emoticon-0102-bigsm), but not so much nowadays. Usual suspects like Yorkie and Poyet making noises in the media but reckon there will ne no chance KLD will go near them.
     
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  8. Monkey69

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    By that description we need to find and old shy northerner sound perfect I am in anybody got any coaches that fill this criteria.<laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  9. Prehab26

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    The bigger issue will be a new man's backroom team. Not many will want to come and have Dodds and Proctor having prominent roles on the first team bench.

    They need to decide if they want to develop the latter or bring in a new man with their assistant and says of working etc. Obviously still within a head coach model.
     
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  10. Monkey69

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    I have mentioned this a few times and I don't really know if it has relevance but the end of TM the interim games with Dodds and the games with Beale there has been a definite switch to defensive set up as opposed to a more attacking approach, the constant in all of these games are Dodds and Proctor. I know Dodds had a couple of good results but if you watch the games they were achieved with a defensive set up which is fine but when we are playing Huddersfield then the tactics need to change but in effect they did not and this same tactic of 2 defensive midfielders seems to be employed even when not required (funnily enough this is how Gareth Southgate prefers England to set up) which I would guess is for continuity, but the truth is we have played better when this tactic is abandoned or we fall behind, which begs the question why it is employed in the first place.
    I am not saying Dodds and Proctor should not be there but a head coach should take charge and assistant coaches should follow their lead and tactical plans otherwise they are being sacked for somebody else's vision.
     
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  11. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on. Personally, I am not really sure why they both have been thrust into the main positions and actually a barrier to brining in top quality main head coaches. How many across the world would come with a demand that they both are prominent and on the first team bench ?

    I hope Dodds smashes it and wins all games and gets it permanent btw. I just find it mad that we are reducing the pool of potential head coaches due to the obsession with proc and Dodds progression.
     
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  12. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Do they actually attend the matches? Or is it just the internet bully boys? You dont know
     
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  13. Scout73

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    Yet we have spent money so we do have a transfer kitty to spend. Its such a false narrative folk spin when they say we dont spend money - we do.

    I get the argument about the model, some will love it, some will hate it and some want it tweaked - thats a fair argument to have

    I hate the argument folk make saying we dont spend money - pretty much all our signings these days cost us money. Whether folk think theyve spent the money wisely or not, they have spent money.
     
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  14. Scout73

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    Think i mentioned in December that my concern is keeping proctor n dodds even if a new manager doesnt want them.

    We should be identifying the best managet for the job and letting him pick his own coaching staff. I get not wanting a new manager bringing loads of staff into the academy, data n scouting side of the club but they must have their own coaches alongside them in the 1st team.

    New coaches will bring fresh ideas and i think thats what we are in desperate need of
     
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  15. Wayne the Punk

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    Dodds is part of the Birmingham mob isnt he. Move him aside into another role, or he has to leave. It will cost money, I think we will see the owners true ambitions in the summer. I wonder how many times he looks at last season and thinks, if we had invested a bit more we would be up there instead of Luton
     
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  16. Scout73

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    They might look at it as a missed opportunity but they know not to be reckless with the money. Just investing a bit more money doesnt guarantee us going up, it also doesnt mean we have a better chance of going up.

    The biggest issue last yr was the injuries to stewart ballard n baath- those 3 being fit i think we go up

    This summer is massive, the manager appt is the big one for me - nail that and we will challenge for promotion for sure next yr imo
     
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  17. Prehab26

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    100% agree.
     
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  18. Prehab26

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    I think it will depend on who we keep out of Ballard, Neil and Clarke.
     
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  19. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Looking at how Luton bullied us I think if Baath had been playing we are at the final, he was brilliant for us last season
     
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  20. Sour Patch

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    We spent over 10 million pounds this season. We are in a transfer deficit of around 8 million since we got promoted. Both of them numbers are one of the highest in the league. What are you talking about?
     
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