I use to watch Russian channels until our government took them down, so much for a free country to form our own opinions.
Don't think that has ever existed in my lifetime... when I went to University in 1979 everything published and available on the bookshelves and News stands of this country was under the control of just 4 organisations... One good thing about the Internet is that it has opened channels to diverse and differing views ... biggest problem with it is that some of those are unhinged
It's like everything in life, you work out what is unhinged for yourself, I don't need my own nanny state government telling me - I can't believe how totalitarian measures our country has become in our lifetime. Mostly the digital age to blame, but there seems to be no curbs on it. CCTV, ANPR, Mobiles, Digital tracking of everything, we just need to complete cashless and they've got a full house.
I'm too old to care now, don't see it as my world anymore, but somewhere in the future after i'm gone, I can see there being in future history where people will regret all these measures. You only need one despot, as history has taught us, it only takes one madman to gain control, and the future could be looking back on the digital age with a lot of regret, if they are allowed to still think by then.
Not sure what I think of this so far. The one obvious thing is the citizens in Eastern Ukraine just want peace. One girl has openly said she is Ukrainian and others are saying they want to be part of Russia. Unsure if some feel like they have to say that with a camera pointed on them. The older folk seem to be united and genuine in saying they feel part of the Soviet Union again and that’s their wish.
Yeah I got the impression that parts of Ukraine (East), like you say older folk, seem to be of the Soviet era, which I suppose is only natural if they were in their 40's or 50's when Gorbachev came to power. Before the channels got taken down, I did see some hate being dished out allegedly by Ukranians in some areas, bit like your ethnic cleansing, but I had no way of measuring of how much truth was in the documentaries. It certainly made me see where Putin got the accusations of nazi from, because it would have been, if true, but as I said, I don't know if it was true, it could have just been propaganda at play.
Are you watching this? A Russian soldier commented that some of the people in the Donbas had told them they had made things worse and weren’t wanted there. One of the commanders wasn’t happy with that and told the journalist it was time to go and move on. The overriding feeling I’m getting now is that both sides believe in their cause because of the propaganda they’ve been told by their governments, but ultimately, they want a solution to end the war so they can return to their civvy jobs and return to a normal life. There’s the odd extremist parroting Putins narratives but they do seem to be the exception.
Russian channels are still available in the UK on the device you are using right now brb A digital device btw that saves all your information https://www.rt.com/ https://www.themoscowtimes.com/ https://tass.com/ https://meduza.io/en Google Chrome localizes you're searches to the place you're based in. You can simply go to the bottom of your google search and alter this.
There's always the dangers of nostalgia, which is a genuine thing that effects the older generation. People in their 60s and over, remember a time in the Union that they were spry enough to hop in a ****ty car with cheap beers, zoom down to the beach and not give a **** about the failing economy, or corruption, or what's going on in Soviet occupied Afghanistan. They view a time they were happier with themselves, first and foremost. Most parts of Eastern Ukraine and these Russian villages haven't changed one bit since Soviet control, it's the same bus stops, same systems, same buildings, same public transport, but they want to "go back" What they want is to stop being stuck in their house cos they have a bad back, they're an extremely bored generation and their minds go to mush. There's people in the UK who view that era with the same opinion, but it's public record, the UK was a ****ing **** hole back then. But everyone was younger and made the most out of it. We will be the same when we are old.
No I didn't see it mate. All I see happpening is Ukraine conceding the land Russians already had previously or taken as a result of this war, and a load of people dying for nothing, just for the Ukranain to keep their western puppet masters happy. What would I have done, let Ukraine go, and all the billions that has been spent on this war, used to shore up all the border weak points. It's easy to support war when it's not the people supporting it having to pick up a gun, it's just an xbox game to them, bit like being on Football Manager and acting as if you go to games.
Bust...it's all a lost cause anyway, thousands have died for nothing,the dead bodies in Mauripol, got turned over in the soil and new buildings stuck on top of them. Treated like organic matter as if they never ever existed.
Thing is people talk about the Soviet state as though it's an enemy, but it's nothing more than a Federation, like the US or even like the EU, and in the main people seem to support federations, except for the minorities as I see it like me. So what is the problem, well it wasn't Gorbachev, but it was Putin, it wasn't Biden (although I might personally disagree) but it was Trump, it wasn't Merkel but it was Hitler (Nazi state). So what does the future hold for the EU, well it's going to evolve from what it is today, who knows within another one hundred years what it has evolved into, and whether some lunatic gets hold of it's reins. The Soviets have an inherited problem, but I could argue so has America, if we go back to Bush and Iraq, and now Biden and Israel and not yanking them in. I've not even got started on China, but again I have no more a problem with them as I do with all the others, we've all got blood on our hands is what I mean.
The Soviet Union as a principle is fine and dandy, but then you read up on the mass genocides which took place within its borders, intentional starvation was a prime tactic of the early union, people vanishing in the night. The number is 6m - 9m people for Stalin alone. That's one leader of the Union. The European Union is a genuine Federation, the Soviet Union was a totalitarian state and the spiritual successor of the Russian Empire. To this day, the modern Russian Federation Lords over ethnic states which have next to nothing in common with mainstream, western Russia. The United States is much more a singular nation with a national identity than either the EU or the Soviet Union. The Soviets wanted to create a similar national identity, but it never worked. The EU is as federal as it comes and doesn't pretend to be otherwise, but is creeping to statehood. The right to veto seems to slowly be losing any serious power within the EU. Now the EU give out their own war time packages like a modern nation state. Hungary was forced to play ball or get punished. Things in the EU are changing.
In my eyes they are all lunatics, but I don't disagree with your take on things. I think we should all be allowed to come back in 200 years and see whose subjective views were right, although I expect everything to be run by China then, well unless India have taken over the world and we're all going around in tuk tuks... The not606 gang in 200 years time... please log in to view this image
