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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    Is Cooper allowed? He is Welsh, looks a bit like a fish and wasn't massively popular at forest.

    Just checking
     
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  2. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Took them from the relegation zone to promotion and done a brilliant job working as England youth manager.

    He ticks every box for me personally
     
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  3. RTB

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    Plus he wants to go to West Ham and Moyes is about to get the TinTack
     
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  4. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    I’m putting it in record that I don’t want Cooper.

    He’s nowhere near handsome enough!!

    Bart
     
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  5. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  6. Iain

    Iain Well-Known Member

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    I'm also convinced the compo cost for the sake of 6 months was what put us off when we got rid of Mowbray. I think if Still comes he will be allowed his no2.
    I believe the plan because of the compo was to give the job to Dodds till the summer then bring in Still
    However I think they would also been aware of Beales record as a coach and maybes though him and dodds could make a decent team.
    It really didn't work out that way and to be quite honest I don't think dodds would have really done much better. Beale is supposed to be an excellent coach as is Dodds but I don't see dodds as the main man either. He had 2 really good results then we were **** in the 3rd.
    Although we have been **** under Beale I think this seasons outcome will be the same other than the compo we pay Beale.
    Let's see how well we can finish this season and bring Still in as early as possible
     
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  7. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Cooper
    O’Neil (ambitious I know)
    McKenna (when the financial meltdown hits)
    Pirlo (cos it’s Pirlo, even though he’s a **** gaffer)
    Absolute ambition ball, follow Bournemouth lead and go for Michel…
    Frank Schmitt
    Still
    Patrick Vieira



    Are any of these realistic? Are they **** but hey. **** it.
     
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  8. Stranded in Lugano

    Stranded in Lugano Well-Known Member

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    Cooper would be my choice as well. He’s as close to an ideal candidate for what we need. .

    The fact the Palace job has gone suggests his chances of a Premier League job are slim. In the summer I’d be surprised if he doesn’t have his pick of the top Championship jobs. The fact we aren’t going for him now suggests he’s not someone we are considering or is feasible (wages, staff etc).
     
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  9. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I'll see your pirlo and raise you a Maldini.
     
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  10. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Pirlo is actually a gaffer though see. Maldini I’m sure said ‘**** that game’ ha
     
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  11. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    He's been technical director at Milan. Credited with helping build the team that won the league a season or two back. Could be replacement for Speakman.
     
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  12. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    So ****ing glorious though. I'd have him standing on the sidelines brooding quietly doing ****ing nowt if he would come here.
     
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  13. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we are going for him now

    Saying dodds is in charge till the end of the season takes the pressure off annoucing anyone until then - doesnt mean we wont appt someone before then
     
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  14. Daz

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    Yeah they might well play a blinder in that way, I’m sure if a manager they were after became available they’d make an approach and not wait until the end of the season.
     
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  15. Scout73

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    Exactly, n look they might not appt anyone until the summer but it def takes the pressure off for now
     
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  16. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    SOLD!
     
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  17. Essayyeffcee

    Essayyeffcee Well-Known Member

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    Let's make a statement and go for either Cooper or Potter, probably a hell of a long shot for either but if we seriously sell the club as a "legacy" for the coach to do skiing the same lines of Ferguson or Busby building Man Utd, Shankly with Liverpool then surely that could give them something to consider. Thing is Speakman would need to take a bit of a back seat and let them get on with it. I agree with what the club is doing concerning bringing in young players but there needs to be flexibility.

    We all keep referring to how good last season was compared to this one but maybe it was because we had that bit of experience in the team - Baath running the defence, Evans in midfield until he was injured and Pritchard with the forwards.

    Although the coaches knew how the club was running things even they signed, the last 3 coaches have asked for more experience in the team to help the young lads.

    We need to select a coach that can actually build something and be at the club for seasons to come so why not aim high?
     
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  18. Brainy Dose

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    Amad.
     
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  19. Flash Gordon

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    The 2 that stand out are both hugely ambitious shouts and perhaps just out of our range. It would be a coup for the club to get either.

    Steve Cooper and Will Still.

    Cooper has excellent Championship form having guided Swansea to the playoffs twice and then getting Forest promoted. He also has good England youth experience which is a positive given the age of our squad.

    He is highly rated though and will definitely want to go back in at Premier League level (or maybe even fancy the England job after the Euros). We won't be his first choice and he might have an eye on how some things unfold between now and the summer at other clubs.

    Still appears to have been the choice last time but it didn't happen for various reasons. His release clause changes in the summer and he will be in our reach financially. He's still very highly rated and doing a good job at Reims. I think his profile is something the club like too. A young coach with huge potential syncs up with our recruitment style.

    There's a strong chance he'll have an opportunity to get a Premier League job though, if not another top jobs in Europe. It's unclear also if any bridges we're burned during the December debacle. Did anyone renege on a promise or back out of the deal etc.

    I wouldn't blame the ownership for not being able to get either of these 2, but I think there's a slim chance we could and we should be exploring it.
     
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  20. 123Daveyboy

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    Cooper BSA

    ps KS no pally pally appointment. Get it right.
     
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