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Match Day Thread Rotherham v Hull City

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Feb 11, 2024.

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City win?

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  1. southerntiger

    southerntiger Well-Known Member

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    Looking forward to this my first away game of the season. only problem is I going in a box with my Rotherham supporting nephew.
     
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  2. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    Still highest, comfortably.

    2nd, marginally, to Plymouth for possession around penalty area. Not sure that's a stat we should be too proud of.

    edit: actually it's misleading as it's based on differing number of games per club! And I cba to convert it all to %'s.
     
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  3. TinpotTiger

    TinpotTiger Well-Known Member

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    upload_2024-2-12_15-48-49.png

    unless I've massively ****ed the data import, or the calculations, its not as bad as that other graph showed. But we're really not keeping great company
     
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  4. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

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    Allsopp
    Coyle (if fit) Jones Greaves Giles
    Morton Tufan
    Omur
    Jaden ,A. Striker(FFS), Zaroury

    If Coyle is ruled out then either Christie or Slater

    City to win 3-1
     
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  5. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

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    I can.

    We have 11.7% of our touches in our own penalty box. The median is 11.1%, we are eighth highest.

    We have 49.3% of our touches in our own third. The median is 45.3%, we are the seventh highest. The graphic that was doing the rounds on twitter is claptrap.

    Do we play it around at the back a lot? Undoubtedly. Do we do it far more than everyone else in the League? Absolutely not, we are upper mid-table for it at best.
     
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  6. Evington

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    Agree
     
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  7. NewcastleTiger

    NewcastleTiger Well-Known Member

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    he’s a professional analyst so I can’t imagine he’s working with wrong data.
     
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  8. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    No one's saying it's incorrect just incomplete data, hence the conversion to percentages to mitigate the differing number of games in the dataset.
     
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  9. TinpotTiger

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    there isn't a difference in the number of games, other than some teams having a game in hand. The #Pl stat in OLM's screenshot is "number of Players used in games".
     
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  10. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough then
     
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  11. NewcastleTiger

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    I doubt it’s incomplete though is my point. How do we know the data put in here earlier that’s calculating us at just under 50 isn’t incomplete?
     
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  12. TinpotTiger

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    It's from FBref, they seem pretty reliable. Either way, such a massive discrepancy means someone is chatting ****e. The fact that the watford bloke didn't give any further explanation, sources or additional detail says a lot IMO.
     
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  13. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Think tinpot has clarified that pl is players used not games played.

    To be fair though, the only stat that really matters is the one that has us 7th in the championship.
     
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  14. Idi Amin

    Idi Amin Well-Known Member

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    Or 8th!
     
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  15. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    indeed. Forgot Sunday happened.
     
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  16. Ehab's Member

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    Couldn't disagree more. A constant theme of our home games is that the opposition often commit more players forward than we do. There's rarely any space to get a shot off as we seem to attack in twos and threes and are crying out for someone to break the lines beyond the striker (if indeed we actually play one).
     
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  17. Charon

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    last time we played at RovRum's gaff
     
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  18. SydneyTiger14

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    7951 / 21,190 is closer to 40% than 49%.

    As defensive pen is in the defensive 3rd, it's pretty clearly a subset of that number, not an addition to it. If people aren't sure, they could add up defensive pen, defensive third, mid third, attacking third, attacking pen and see that it's a bigger number than total touches.
     
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  19. StCloudTiger

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    Like how and when?
     
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  20. NewcastleTiger

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    When he came on at the weekend and contributed **** all?
     
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