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Match Day Thread Hull City v Swansea

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Feb 9, 2024.

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  1. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    It was generally just more of the same.
    So poor in out attacking plays. Lightweight, ponderous, ....
    Difference this time is that there was no individual brilliance moment to dig us out of it.
    It is worth dwelling on because it's a theme.
     
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  2. Benjo

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    I've never done it, but that's the closest I've come to leaving early today. If we were still playing now I don't think we'd have bagged a goal yet.

    To say 'Hull City won the January transfer window' it doesn't much feel like it right now. You can tell me it's early days etc but the signs are not positive right now.

    Ömür looked good... That's about the only positive I can clutch at.
     
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  3. hullborn

    hullborn Well-Known Member

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    We cant keep blaming players. Some of the players we have at the club have done it in the championship with different teams and looked class. We've turned Giles from one of the best attacking leftbacks in the league to a left sided Coyle. Carvalho was so good for Fulham Liverpool snapped him up at the earliest opportunity. The lad from Burnley on loan, proven championship winning winger last season..

    It's not the players, its the system. It's boring and pedestrian.

    Many teams play it out from the back, its what they do next with the ball that determines if it works or not. We dont seem to know what to do next.
     
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  4. Drew

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    I really don’t think today was a theme though.

    When we’ve had poor performances before (I’m not saying we are perfect under Rosenior), we’ve passed it well and sometimes created chances but not taken them.

    Today our build up play was disjointed and ineffective. That’s not been the case a lot this season.
     
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  5. Top_Tiger

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    Quick slick passing with direct movement. It’s not hard.
     
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  6. Deano's Volley

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    I hope you’re not saying we’re too defensive and boring to watch? We’re thoroughly entertaining, who doesn’t love playing it around the back when we’re losing.
     
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  7. Tentotwo

    Tentotwo Well-Known Member

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    Not good at all today. Appreciate it takes time for new players to blend in fully but we have to do better than that City. I’ll let this one go for now but there’s far too much talent in the squad now for that kind of no show to happen again home or away.

    Hopefully Rovrum feel the aftershock’s.


    UTT.
     
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  8. kingstontiger

    kingstontiger Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't go today but I did feel the two false nines thing had run out of steam after about 30 mins last week. I thought Liam would start the same today but rather hoped he wouldn't. I think he's slightly bottled it in not leaving out Tufan or Carvalho. Tufan has never really done well in that more advanced role and Carvalho is doing ok but certainly not yet transformative. Would personally like to see Connolly and Sharp for 2 of Tufan, Carvalho or Zanoury on Tuesday evening.
     
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  9. Cityzen

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    Hull 52% Swansea 38%…Where did the other 10% disappear to?
     
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  10. Gone For A Walk

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    Starting point of analysis should be to give credit to Swansea's manager and players. We were out thought and out fought. Well played Swansea.

    We've seen 20 good minutes, followed by 160 minutes (plus additional time) of absolute garbage from us these past 2 games. In those 2 games we've seen how we continue to be missing balance in our team. We've brought better, more exciting players in, which is good, but you need those players that bring fight, physicality, energy, resilience, presence, etc too. NOT cloggers, but when bringing in the better 'flair' players you need to do the same in terms of physical, grafting players too. We haven't, we're so lightweight. We'll have days or periods (like that 20 mins) where it clicks, but without those sort of players we will too often continue to get out thought and out fought.

    And then there's Rosenior. I just can't help but continue to question him. Yes, he might be a good man manager, etc, but for me he's just too inexperienced. Maybe taking the punt on him will pay off long term, but we are missing out in the here and now, not just in terms of his obsession with his philosophy (anyone hear Colin recently giving his view on the madness of team's copying Man City rather than adapting to get the best from the quality of players you've actually got?), but also in terms of how he's crafting the squad and his apparent inability to coach attacking play. It's great having exciting talent, but ....
     
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  11. Jim the Tiger

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    He has no plan B or he is too arrogant to change. Some of us recognised it earlier than others. As others have said Acun backed the wrong horse.
     
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  12. M88 EVN

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    That was painful. Slow and boring with hardly any shots on goal as usual. The system needs tweaking and quickly but I fear Rosie's stubbornness will be his (and our) downfall.
     
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  13. TinpotTiger

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    It's annoying how we seem to bottle games the moment we have any chance of getting into the playoffs / cementing our place in them.

    Have we played particularly well in any of the games this year? We nicked a goal in both the Sunderland and Millwall games but didn't look convincing over 90 mins in either of them and we got battered by Norwich and Wednesday.

    At some point we're going to have to kick on and put some performances in. Especially now we've got some of the best attacking talent in the league.
     
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  14. Top_Tiger

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    It’s not about plan a or plan b. It’s the fact we keep the ball in the wrong areas without going anywhere for most of the game. Ball retention is all well and good but if it’s not creating you chances what’s the point. We have the players no there’s literally no excuse.
     
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  15. Tigerglenn

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    Just landed at Leeds Bradford looks like I chose a good one to miss .
     
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  16. springtiger

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    A technical thing but why does Jaden drop 15 yds on the wi v to receive a ball leaving him to beat the full back and the closing midfielder - when he could push up and wide and make the out ball a 50/50 in other words he should win every other one - not get closed f so win B ancc D.C. go nowhere all the time ( but they had him figured )
     
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  17. pcworks

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    Rosie is starting to grate on me. Rotherham have won three games all season, if we lose there, Rosie will be updating his CV.
     
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  18. Jim the Tiger

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    It should be. He set them up a certain way and when he realised Swansea were pressing well and containing us comfortably he had no solution to change it.

    I'm sure there will be someone popping up to say we're 3rd in the table for passing or shots from 25 yards out or something and we can all be thankful we have such an awesome manager and write today off as a bad day for 'a top top group of lads'
     
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  19. balkan tiger

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    Not so long ago after a particularly bad performance Liam said it wouldn't happen again, looks like it did and not for the first time.
     
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  20. Der Alte

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    Like many I'd been really looking forward to this - but, as is so often the case, I came away disappointed with another weekend spoiled. Swansea were better than us in just about every aspect and our biggest single fault remains as speed, or rather lack of it. Our painfully slow decision making and movement of the ball out of defence holds us back and is so easy for opposition teams to counter. Liam doesn't need to abandon his tactic but he just needs to realise that it can't be effective at half speed.
     
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