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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Labour have finally accepted the £28 billion 'green' plan couldn't be promised.

    It was first flown in 2020 when the cost of borrowing, in 2025, couldn't possibly predicted.

    This will, hopefully, stop any more of these ridiculous predictions.

    People are sick of these 'promises' and don't want more imo.
     
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  2. The Exile II

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    Both parties gleefully competing over which one of them Brianna Ghey's family likes best after yesterday's carry on.

    Jessus wept, it really is just all about scoring the point isn't it? Minging. Have some ****ing dignity.
     
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  3. Row 3

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    Looks like Hunt is going to give away any fiscal headroom as tax cuts too, so the national balance sheet will look very different come election time compared to when the £28b pledge was made. I hate having a high tax economy, but when you're paying £83b a year in interest payments alone the priority should be reducing national debt.
     
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  4. FellTop

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    I liked the plan, but I never really believed they would spend that much. Always seemed a massive stretch. Disappointing the home insulation part the biggest loser.

    The question is what now. This was really a centre piece for Labour. First green chancellor etc. Economy growing off the back of it. I have zero issues with changing plans when it is needed, it is what I expect everybody in all walks of life. Starmer is becoming a target for his changes though, and he needs to find a plan and stick to it. It is vital we have a clear identity and plan from Labour. This wont derail their ride to power. What they plan to do when there is what we really need to see now, not what they wont or cant do because of the tory balls ups.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    All the Tories had to do, in order to win another election, was to be half decent ...

    ... they failed totally and look like the worst government in history.

    Labour could advocate compulsory euthanasia, for over 60's, and still get in.

    Policies are irrelevant now, people are just sick of this current administration.
     
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  6. FellTop

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    I dont even think it is a competence issue with the tories. They arent stupid. Even Boris isnt daft, despite the act. It is the constant in fighting, factions and resulting watered down, or poisoned up, ideas and policy that gets me. It would be like Beale wanting to play a certain way in a fixture. But Dodds disrupting all the tactical work with some secret night time training. Then Proctor telling the striker to do the exact opposite and finally the chef putting a laxative in the tea. They have ruined their chances by having no sense of team.

    All that said, time for a change anyway. Govts in power for too long is a problem in my book. Country needs a change, something to hang a bit of hope on. There are good folk on the Labour benches who I hope have a big voice going forward.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    TBH mate, I went along with that line for quite some time ...

    ... but I really believe now that he is that daft.

    Sadly, people who admire him, openly or secretly, are even dafter.

    I worked for a millionaire, in Beaulieu, who absolutely adored him to a degree that was cringing for a grown man.
    He was involved in the project to procure a new Royal Yacht and would actually cry if anyone contradicted him talking about Boris. I'd post his name if I didn't already pity him.
     
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  8. COYCS

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    No. They definitely are.

    Personally, l believe we will have more of the same, because so much of our money is wasted, today l read that Starmer and Rayner between them claim over £361k in expenses last year. That is the tip of the iceberg.

    Its no wonder he cannot afford £28b, Personally l would of like some of that go towards the NHS.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    It's already covered mate <laugh>

    please log in to view this image
     
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  10. The Exile II

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    The thing over Joe Biden's memory has just exploded.

    ****ing hell he looks doddery.
     
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  11. Pure River Slut

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    Where did you read that ? I’d be interested to know the context behind that
     
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  12. rooch 3

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    Cheap skates, our MP is Tim Farron and 2/3 years ago his expenses were £250k and the year after was £300k. But worth checking just incase I’m wrong.Labour cheap at half the price <laugh>
     
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  13. Pure River Slut

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    If we get parliament out of London, away from the abhorrent financial institutions into a circular, mixed up, less confrontational, more collaborative environment, we save huge amounts of expenses money and start to change how politics is done. Keep the commons as a museum. It’s time for a more cost effective upgrade.
     
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    Can't be arsed to check, but all MP's expenses are published on the "they work for you" website. Or at least that's what I think it was called. Easy enough to check.
     
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    Decided to check.
    Kier Starmer:
    Screenshot_20240209-082908.png Angela Rayner:
    Screenshot_20240209-083050.png
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    It'll never happen, the whole thing is a huge 'gentleman's club' in a city where politicians can hide in plain view ...

    ... and we pay for it all, every penny comes from us.

    Yet people like Hunt, Atkins and Sunak can puff their chests out and say,
    'Today I'm giving a further £3 billion to the NHS' and we have to be grateful <doh>
     
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  17. COYCS

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    It came from one of the candidates brochure.
    Yesterday, l had leaflets from, Britain First, Liberal Dems, Torie's, Labour, and two Independent candidates.
    Four women, and 2 men. Two more candidates, one is the Reform party, no idea who the other is.
    I did read all of them and then binned them.
    The expensive bit was either Lib Dems or Independent candidate.
     
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  18. rooch 3

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    MPs are saying they are sick of being harassed by the public now, maybe if they just did their jobs and stopped wasting, trousering or giving our money to their mates they wouldn’t be harassed at all.
     
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  19. COYCS

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    I do get fed up with the saying "to little to late"
    It would be nice if they said "we welcome more funding, buy remind you more needs to be done"
     
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    So if labour get in and don't put £28b into green energy, does that mean we don't have to contribute either and therefore the energy companies will reduce our standing charges ?
     
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