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Winter transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by mick65, Nov 7, 2023.

  1. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    What isn’t good for young players is fans personally abusing their head coach, but that’s for another thread. I do t say any of those players as bad buys, bad players only not ready. Burstow was a bad loan because he was the one supposed to be ready.
     
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  2. Magnus

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  3. Vincemac

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    Good point on burstow
    Recently our additions have either been injured or got injured straight away or not been ready
    We need to get players in who can hit the ground running
    As they say
     
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  4. Sour Patch

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    Could be for a whole number of reasons. Barnsley getting money in the summer instead of now could be better for their accounts, same with us. The FFP rules coming in soon are no joke and teams want to get ahead of that, Barnsley made good money from sales in the summer so don't need money now but do in the summer.
     
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  5. FellTop

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    I posted on here previously about loan with obligation as possibly the way to go. I have no problem with it personally. Critical for me we get 2 or 3 ready to go players in now to maintain some of momentum. Even if all it means is we finish 8th not 14th it is worth it when it comes to attracting players (or even head coaches) in the summer.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's a difficult conundrum mate.

    You could say clubs like Birmingham aren't struggling for money because they're spending ...

    ... but the stadium is a mess and they're deep in debt.

    If the current owners fail, which they probably will, they could easily 'do a Short' and just stop supporting the club. That leaves a failed club that the supporters will expect someone else to pick up and just start the spending again.

    It's mind blowing how such a great game has been so ruthlessly destroyed.
     
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  7. Southern A

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    Styles would be a cracking signing and I couldn't care less the route to transfer chosen. Loan with obligation can be for multiple reasons.
     
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  8. Grimes

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    Exactly what I was thinking tbh and going off what I’d posted yday about no funds this window. We will have to see if any fees are paid between now and next week I suppose.
     
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  9. Hudson92

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    Plenty room for loans in our squad so fine by me too, don’t mind a try before you buy haha
     
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  10. Confucius

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    Getting players over the line is of prime importance to me. How they do it is secondary and I guess we will have to trust them to do the right thing
     
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  11. Southern A

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    We could be loaning to then buy in the summer to allow the funds we do have to still be spent this window.

    I keep wanting to remind everyone, last January we didn't sign anybody until the 23rd (today), and ended up signing 4. So there is still plenty of scope for deals to happen.
     
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  12. Billy Batts

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  13. Southern A

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    Styles versatility is the key. I think we will predominantly see him initially as an attacking left back to overlap Clarke.
     
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  14. Magnus

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    thing is it won't be a try before you buy it's an obligation to buy, so we would have to buy him in summer, so even if he's **** we would still have to buy

    id be happy with the signing mind i think it would be a good, has played in this league so would hit the ground running in that instance but if its an obligation to by we clear want to buy, so do it now,

    if ffp works the sam way as the prem, i'm not really clued up with the EFL

    but if you sell a player for 10m you can then spend 20m with out the worry off FPP

    say we got 10-12 m for are sales in the summer if it works the same as the prem

    we then can spend 24m with out a worry of FFP
    so can't see it being that reason to be honest

    to me it's sounds like we haven't got the money and will use the money on 1 of are players we sell in the summer
     
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  15. LD19SAFC

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  16. Hudson92

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    It could be we have limited funds this window so get in a loan or 2 plus one on a perm and reassess the loans in the summer? (Unless we’re obligated to buy) I have nothing to back that up mind just a thought, a big sale is where we will kick on/find out about this model
     
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  17. Sour Patch

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    PSG signed Mbappe on loan with an option/obligation originally.

    Arsenal have Raya on loan with an option/obligation now.

    Villa have Zaniolo on loan with an option/obligation now.

    The mags have Hall on loan with an option/obligation now.

    It's just a way for clever clubs to get around the financial regulations. But aye lets give our club stick for doing it. Getting so ****ing boring now.
     
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  18. Confucius

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    The obligation to buy will come with a criteria though.
     
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  19. Scootsie

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    Good player, Styles.

    Seems to be linked with us every window though.
     
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  20. Southern A

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    Can't remember the link being as solid as Sky Sports reporting it.
     
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