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Winter transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by mick65, Nov 7, 2023.

  1. Sour Patch

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    He also spoke about being linked to forwards but they have to be the right fit and said 'They have to be motivated to come and play for us' so they are clearly looking at signing one.
     
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    His senior career stats 2 goals in 30 apps, not really good is it.
     
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  3. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Playing devils advocate here but if we had a regular striker playing and on penalties this season they’d have 5+ goals and the talk of having no striker would be nowhere near as dramatic as it is
     
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  4. LD19SAFC

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    …I wouldn’t trust any of our strikers taking a penalty <laugh>
     
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    News re Jack Clarke's sell-on fee due to Spurs highlights how much #SAFC use profit on sale clauses (assumed, rather than % on total sale)
    Unconfirmed, but based on reporting:
    35% - Pierre Ekwah
    25% - Clarke
    25% - Aji Alese
    25% - Eliezer Mayenda
    15% - Ross Stewart
     
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  6. Sour Patch

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    Good business really. I think all together them players were signed for less than 4m, without the clauses you are probably looking at around 10m and that wouldn't be good business.
     
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  8. Iain

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    They are nothing compared to Huggins, however that's why we got him for nothing when the thought so highly of him. Unfortunately the injuries haven't helped their cause but they expected him to really kick on here and sell for a large fee.
    Which they think their chunk off that would be higher than the fee we would have paid in the first place
     
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  9. Nads

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    We’d have to sell Clarke for north of 20.

    Be used by dickheads to slate the club of course but be Insanity to refuse
     
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  10. LD19SAFC

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    I wouldn’t expect any less. I wonder what the clubs current valuation actually is…
     
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  11. Iain

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    It would be mate, these will be the same people that keep insisting we are a selling club that only want to cash in on the clubs assets. Yet in the whole time KLD has not sold a player that was a guaranteed starter
     
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  12. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Selling Clarke is a tough one for me.

    He’s a very good player at this level but he’s not quite the world class winger some make him out to be. I don’t mind losing him if I’m honest but knowing how much Spurs will get from the sale for certain would be a good.

    If someone offered £20m and it was all coming to us I wouldn’t even think he’d be gone. But if it’s slightly less with other clauses affected for other players and we only see £10m it’s a harder pill to swallow.

    I know people will scoff and think I’m mad for saying I’d take £20m at the drop of a hat but that’s just generally where he’s at in the market again other similar players over the last few years. The market is so strange that I don’t think there’s really a great benchmark for what to accept. He’s nowhere near as good as Bowen who went for £20m. Or Olise for that matter and he was £9m. But then Keane Lewis Potter went for about £16m iirc and I’d say he looks better than him.
     
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    all kinds of odd the situation with him
     
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  14. Iain

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    I think if he goes for around 20 I think we'd be looking at around 17.5, if we recruit well how much would the squad Improve, we could sign another 3 or 4 players of Clarkes ability, look at what we paid for Clarke, ballard, cirkin, huggins. Yes the injuries haven't helped some but it just shows if it's invested right. Could they unearth a quality CDM for 3 million, we don't know.
    Adil, Ba, Bennette, Rigg and Rusyn may all step up to the mark given a run of games.
    I would love to keep Clarke he is top quality, if me managed to get promoted we may just keep him but if we do lose him I don't think it's the end of the world, if we invest properly it may show that the model does work. Even though some would still find fault
     
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    Transfer windows aren't what they used to be.
     
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    I've a lot more confidence in this regime to reinvest in an adequate replacement and improving the squad rather than wasting money like in previous years and losing our best players would be the end of the world.
     
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    Too right they’re not. It wasn’t too long ago I was as excited to see who we’d managed to get rid of from our over paid group of mercenaries as I was hopeful we’d bring in some quality to replace them. I was usually disappointed as they dug in to see out their over inflated contracts. Much happier with how the club operates now.
     
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  18. Iain

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    It would only seem like the end of the world if we didn't replace them adequately.
    When Clarke first came on loan he struggled to get a start, hopefully if he was to leave we could find a replacement that could contribute nearly as much as he has as well as having money left over to strengthen in other positions in the squad.
    I know that's a lot easier said than done but I've got more faith in this recruitment team than any in the past
     
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  19. WorkyTicketFTM

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    He was poor for years before coming here and even in the beginning he was nothing special. Last season he was top drawer but playing in the PL against quality RB’s week in week out will be a different animal. He’ll be coming up against defenders who‘ll be fitter and stronger than him and you need to put a shift in defensively so it’ll be a big step up imo especially the physicality.

    I’m a bit pessimistic about how much we’ll get if it’s a profit based sell on clause plus a lower fee to knock down the sell on clauses of the ex-WHU players. If we go down to for arguments sake £18m and we’ve paid £3m for him that leaves £15m profit. Even if the clause is as low as 25% that would leave us just over £11m which is considerably less than the £18m some of our fans will see in the newspaper articles and expect us to pump back in to the penny.

    Still with the money from the Stewart sale plus potentially another £10m+ we should have a decent budget to go and sign the quality we need to build that all important spine.
     
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  20. Sol97uk

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    Possible his replacement might already be there, just need a run in the team. Adil looks like a player, ba with confidence could become a hell of a player and rusyn played on the left for his previous team.

    I'd be disappointed to see him go but confident we would get a replacement and improve the team with the money. Plus I think we'd get good money and a good deal, like we did with Stewart, don't think he'd be going on the cheap.
     
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