Kris Boyd was a pish head. He was well known for being out all the time when he was at Boro and even got barred from the golf club near me for being drunk at disorderly at 10am in the morning.
But what if they dont look good enough in training? Should a coach pick players that arent training well? I doubt a coach will stick with the same old if he felt other options were better. Makes no sense to do that. As for Roberts you are missing my point. Individual players dont win games. Jack Clarke and Dan Neil did not win the game against Hull because they scored and assisted. You have to be able to look beyond the stats and see what the overall performance achieved.
So if they are not training well which then results in them not playing what was the point in even signing them in the first place? Any young kid should be biting at the bit to make an impression for their new club with world class facities like we have?
But they have consistently picked players who aren't playing well and surely performances in games are more important than training? Aouchiche leads our team in all the important data points for an attacking midfielder yet barely plays. Jobe (who I really enjoy as a footballer and will make this club a load of money) gets consistent minutes as the 10 but does not contribute enough creativity wise to warrant having that position over Aouchiche.
Thats fair but i was using him as an example of someone who had a great goal scoring record up here but struggled when he moved down south I personally think shankland will struggle in England, most will look at his goal scoring record and think he will do well without ever really watching him play. His all round game imo is not up to championship standard, that's just my opinion from watching him live
I might not be explaining myself very well, had a couple of bevvies. Folk saying these players have not had a fair chance. For me, everytime you go on the training pitch you have a chance to impress and earn a place. If yoy do that day in day out consistently then I dont think I have ever seen a coach who would not put them in the team, particularly if the lad in that position was below par. Once you get it you then have to work like mad to keep it. The 90 minutes on a match day is only a fraction of what a coach sees of players. We all, me included, cant understand why some players dont play more, but we have to remember thr coaches see them every day, in all kinds of circumstances, and they are all honest guys who pick what they believe are their best teams. I have enough respect for the coaches at the club to think they have good reasons for choosing the players they do
I dont have access to data mate, apart from the obvious ones, so cant comment too much in how much those stats should lead decision making. It is a good debate though, and I am probably wrong. What I have liked about Adil is he looks to have really settled here and is always smiling. I hope he stays happy and becomes a star man because he has talent for sure. At the end of the day the club have signed players who they think have the necessary ability. Coaches need to squeeze 20 odd into 11 and I reckon they all do their best. Like Mowbray, they lose their job if their best falls short. Over to Beale now to give all these players a platform to perform.
I get what you’re saying mate but training isn’t the be all and end all. It’s a controlled environment. It’s almost like doing a training course in something in a classroom environment where it’s ideal conditions then expecting it to be the same in the real world. For me if we’re continually losing on the pitch and you refuse to change players because you think they look better in training that’s just crazy. They should all be giving 100% in training which I’m sure they are so I don’t know how much they can “prove” themselves in that environment. As I’ve said TM reckons Burstow was taking the net off and both Roberts and Clarke said Ba was the most skilful so not sure how much of that translates to what they do on the pitch.
I think training is a bit more than that mate. Certainly in a week with games at day 7. You will see really high intensity stuff. It will be ultra competitive and players will be told to play for a spot. I obviously have no idea if players arent doing it in training. But I dont see any coach unwilling to put in players when results are bad if they think they will improve things. There has to be something they see which they believe will get the result. Anyway, like I have said, Beale is already hinting at forming his own opinions and ideas. I know how keen he is on developing talent, and how he spots talent. I suspect over the next month or so we will see some changes, minor perhaps, but we will see some changes. He is very much a coach who wants players to shine by all accounts, and his love of Futsal tells you all you need to know about his view on talented players. Lets see, I think Adil and Rusyn might just shine under him latter part of this season. And if Rigg is what I think he is then Adil, Jobe and Roberts will all be in trouble.
I think the first step in January is for Burstow to return to Chelsea. It hasn't worked for anyone. He'll want to be playing regularly so let him have a chance of joining a lower Championship club or League One side. Hemir is a tricky one. I'd like to loan him out, but he's only been in the country 6 months, he might be better just training with the first team and playing for the U21's for the rest of this season to allow him to settle. Mayenda and Rusyn have both shown enough for me that they should be getting some minutes off the bench at the very least. Mayenda could probably play for U21's and 20 minutes off the bench in the first team, getting enough time. Rusyn needs to be involved every week and starting some games. I see him a bit like Broadhead in the sense that he's not necessarily the main man, but could play up front alongside someone, off the wing or behind the striker. There's a first team birth up for grabs if we can find the right player to come in, but it's hard to even know what kind of striker we want. A mobile player who runs the channels, a target man who can play with his back to goal and hold the ball up or a fox in the box to take chances when they present themselves. I'm warming to the idea of taking a punt on Langstaff, but I think getting another loan in is the most likely option (though I can't think of an obvious candidate).
Rigg looks to be a player but I don’t think Jobe will be in trouble we just need to move him back. He’s not a 10. He’s playing a good standard of football at a very young age - as mentioned before Dan Neil hadn’t even kicked a ball outside of youth football at the age Jobe is at now. Going to be some big decisions on who we fit into the team and those who can’t get in need to be moved on to free up wages for better players in positions we require. No use having 4-5 young lads on the bench who can all play in the same position it’s too many to even bother loaning them all out imo.
Have to say. Rusyn is no kid and if he hadn't picked up an injury I think his spot in starting line up would been nailed down by now. His movement and his ability to play across the whole front line would add new dimension. We've been flirting with swapping the front three about since beale came in. Rusyn is tailor made for a role like that imo
What is beyond question is Rusyn is closest to first 11 ready, and as such he deserves a run of games to get his feet.
Playing league 2 there’s probably not too much worry in terms of dealing which physicality. If the lad looks to have the skill he’ll soon step up. I’ll leave it up to others to judge his suitability in terms of playing style although that may look a little different come Easter when Beale has had some time with the squad.
Can’t see us paying a fee or big signing on bonus for a 28 year old. A player whose value is going to go down over a contract is a bad use of capital. Writing that fee off over a contract vs a younger player who holds their value at least makes a huge difference to the budget. Say £3m over 3 year contract is £20k a week in write down. Also at 28 will be wanting peak wages. I’d be astounded if we brought in any player in that category.
Its a shame we dont have that ambition really. Bayern signed Kane for huge money for example and his value will only drop now with his age and hes tearing the league apart. You get what you pay for and its obvious Mogga also got frustrated when he spoke out whuch led to his shock dismissal. A club our size and fanbase shouldnt be constantly looking round the bargain basement and buying kids that have the potential of a big sell on fee, to then do it all over again with another kid. I really dont feel comfortable with this so called plan we have.
You really don't understand football finances do you? Bayern can do that because Kane will generate crazy revenue through shirt sales and other commercial stuff linked to him. Us signing a championship player for £5mill will not generate us anything. You talk about 'ambition' but how about looking at the rules. Owners under the current rules can't just go and drop serious money on a transfer unless the club have made money, hence the plan to sell players and reinvest. It's really not hard to understand.
Dont patronize me mate i used him as an example. Im sure Leicester dont regret paying 3m for a 28 year old Jamie Vardy from Fleetwood aswell for another example
What do you make of us having the 4th lowest wage bill in the league? I am clueless to be honest on how football finance works, but it seems bizarre we are so low.
This so called plan has dragged us up from League one with a plethora of exciting youngsters who will generate us the finances for us to push on over the next few seasons.
