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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    No they shouldn't

    I would lose all respect for them if they did. We are emotionally invested into our club so we dont always think with our heads.

    I work for a club and i can tell you they are very much a fans club however we dont take into acct their views when signing players or getting a manager. We havr experts in those areas to make those final decisions who know what they are doing
     
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  2. Sour Patch

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    They shouldn't even be listened to.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Is that short for 'deliberately obtuse, stuck in the past and signs off each text with 'best regards, Mr A Pedant, Chester le Street'' <laugh>

    BTW it's a capital letter on Street.
     
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  4. Culinary

    Culinary Well-Known Member

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    So even with the benefit of hindsight you’d have rather had Keane over Neil and never appointed Mowbray?
     
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  5. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Mind, I don’t hold it against Beale speaking about his loyalty to QPR then going Rangers.

    Facts are was probably a good thing to say in the moment to get fans onside (always a benefit) then the Rangers offer came unexpectedly soon after.

    QPR to Rangers is a hell of a job uplift, especially given he had ties to club.

    Circumstances caused that, not Beale.
     
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  6. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    I have said this before. Having on average a gaffer a year for 20 years is a poor look. Coaches want time in a job, they want to feel a club will show patience when factors outside of a coaches control affect their ability to hit highest performance levels. My suspicion is coaches and their advisors, certainly those with options, will think twice about us, even with the current owners under whom the same high turnover is continuing. Mowbray going raised a number of eyebrows amongst coaches I know. Had more than a few 'what is the logic behind that' type of messages. As close as we all are to the club we think we should be attractive to coaches, those at a distance and with a dispassionate view may well look on us without the same view.
     
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  7. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

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    Thats what we all want...Pretty simple. Instead, they lob hand grenades in to stir up the waters.
     
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  8. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    here here - LJ never gets the credit he rightly deserves!!

    Bart
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    The main 'evidence' against Beale seems to be the testimony of Rangers fans on chat forums like this one <laugh>
     
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  10. Culinary

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    The dual Sunderland Rangers fans told us that Amad was useless and that Jordan Jones was the second coming so I’m hoping their judgement is similarly askew when it comes to Beale too.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    1+1 = total guesswork.

    Why would a club, with a 50,000 fanbase, take notice of a few hundred internet warriors who shout the loudest ...

    ... it's like governing the country thinking the EDF represent the views of the entire country.
     
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  12. TeamOfTalents

    TeamOfTalents Well-Known Member

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    I'd be more annoyed if the club were influenced by my whining!
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Or my classic in the SOL derby when I shouted, 'Defoe man, don't shoot from the... !' <laugh>
     
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  14. Hudson92

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    I remember shouting ‘let diouf take it’ when Richardson stood over that free kick too :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Take away those who've walked, like Neil, and you're left with the likes of Johnson who'd just lost 6-0, and could've been 10-0, with a side way too good for L1.

    Having said that, I agree with you and would like a 5 year manager next.
     
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  16. John 11:35

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    And when they gather into a swarm they are a huge huge pain in the arse

    The club should’ve laid down a PR strategy which involved playing down sultry foreign strangers with exotic names and at least looking like they fought Geordie Arabia on ticket allocations and flag shagging
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    Isn't that just deliberately deceiving the supporters?
     
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  18. young2077

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    Lee Johnson.
     
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  19. John 11:35

    John 11:35 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been observing the furious masses on another website and the phrase “bending over to take it” has cropped up a few times

    I then donned my hazmat suit and read a few mag websites who employed the opposite metaphor, can’t wait to **** those Mackem bastards

    With that in mind, I would at least pretend I up put up a fight <laugh>
     
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  20. Bank of England 2

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    Spot on mate. After Parky left, he turned our style of attacking play around towards what it is today, but without some of the star players who have come in since. You are right though, he was pretty clueless in how to set a team up to defend.

    Neil improved us in that area and Mowbray took us a step further. It's now up to Beale to carry this forward again by tightening up our defending, particularly at set pieces and mix things up enough to amalgamate a striker into our style of play. If he achieves both of those objectives, I'll be delighted with him.
     
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