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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    He wasnt a failure at QPR, he was poor at Rangers for sure but lets hope he learns from it

    I get folk are disappointed but if he is annouced then we need to get behind him
     
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  2. TonyG

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    Agree. Too much dummy spitting tonight
     
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  3. Drugtester

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    That is yet to be determined, he is the first I can remember to sell us out to the mags. Is he the first to employ a mag as a security officer? What are the Dreyfus families dealings with Saudi?
     
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  4. Nads

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    100% mate. This sounds quality to me will be absolutely charged and it will be brilliant.

    It’s not a club decision folk are forever desperate to take a pop at the club.

    Beale though. ****ing meh.
     
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  5. Sour Patch

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    While I am pissed off at the decisions there is no need for conspiracy theories
     
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  6. rowley

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    I've no idea either. Not about Still or any of them.

    But it stretches credulity to think that Beale was somehow the last man interviewed and turned out to be the best.

    But it's Beale and that's it. Well see.

    I don't expect promotion and I didn't anyway. The team is very young, with several teenagers in the squad at various times, and young and relatively inexperienced players in most positions.

    I hope obviously, and I imagine the club aspires, but to expect it given those circumstances, albeit the young players are very good indeed, is a big stretch.
     
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  7. Drugtester

    Drugtester Well-Known Member

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    If I asked a recruitment company to find me a manager and they came up with Beale, they would be moved on.
     
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    If you don’t own a football club I would agree with you.
     
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  9. safcfansofaraway

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    So would I, cos I can't see Beale managing a distribution warehouse. :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  10. Stranded in Lugano

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    I don’t think I’ve ever know a manager/ coach so universally despised by fans of his former clubs. There is usually more balance. The only one that runs him close is Lee Johnson….

    If he is appointed, which appears the case, it’ll be the most negatively received appointment since Parkinson which takes some doing.
    I’ve been underwhelmed with appointments before but at least saw the logic and rationale. I’m really struggling with this one.
    The club have a decent record recently in appointing people to take us forward . I hope that’s the case again but really can’t see it. I think he’ll be an unmitigated disaster.
     
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  11. TopCat.

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    What are you even talking about?
     
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  12. Montysoptician

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    Me too Smug
     
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  13. Mackem-Tiz

    Mackem-Tiz Well-Known Member

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    I've heard Beales style of play isn't very attractive. We have grown used to exciting style of football so that is my main concern.
    I was/am hoping for a quick passing game with a high press.
    I was very unimpressed we went for Mowbray initially and I'm equally unimpressed with Beale if we get him.
    But TM worked out ok and I'm hoping the same goes for MB.
     
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  14. safcfansofaraway

    safcfansofaraway Well-Known Member

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    Well, it's been interesting on here today, more than a happy clapper like me can cope with, so much anger and condemnation of something that might just turn out to be a little bit good? Fingers crossed. Time for tea.
     
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  15. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    Hes been here 2 minutes in owner terms, let's see how things go. Everything seems positive but we have been at our lowest ebb and only 2 years on the journey.

    People slate Ellis short, but that's tainted with the last season or 2 where he gave up Put his willingness to spend with this model / recruitment team and its probably a different story.
     
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  16. TopClub

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    I was talking to a retired copper mate who knows our ex copper security manager and he told me that he supports the lads and not the Saudis.
    My mate used to be a dog handler and he said that he did not dare take his dog to the landfill because when he was training the dog he punished it with a few slaps of a mag top
     
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    So for all the good he's done he's to be sacked because of 1 bad appointment?
     
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  18. FellTop

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    Blimey lads. I go for a bit of golf and come back to this <laugh>. Honestly think there is a lot of anger and despair here, that isnt really warranted, not about Beale anyway.

    I posted last night about his coaching record and experience. Real elite level stuff. Puts some of the experience of the so called young upcoming European coaches experience in the shade. I hear lads at Villa and Liverpool who saw him work and they say he is absolutely brilliant. So we have a head coach, whose reputation as a coach is unreal.

    I think this country has been seduced by the prospect of young european coaches. It is the De Zerbi factor at the minute. I have been banging on for a while on here that a lot of it is emporers new clothes stuff. The young british coaches are every bit as qualified, imnovative, tactically aware etc. Dont let the narrative about the super powers folk like Still have kid you on would be my advice.

    As for all the talk I read on here today about man management skills. I often here about bad man management, but nearly always from players who arent playing, dropped or want away. I never give any credit to fans of old clubs opinions - it is always the ones who like a whinge will whinge. I have a celtic supporting mate and he says rangers fans are all daft <laugh><laugh>. Seriously, what he does say is under Ange they were on a different level and Rangers squad was miles behind them, but he doesnt think Beale was the main reason. Imagine losing a league to Ange, who now seems to be showing his ability at Spurs, and that being seen as failure.

    I honestly dont see any reason why this lad shouldnt do a better job than any of the ones folk were salivating over these last 2 weeks. The evidence isnt there. I fear a bit for him because fans didnt take to LJ because of how he spoke, and Beale will talk in similar ways. Hope folk can get beyond that and judge him on performances on the pitch.

    Lastly, I have commented on KLD and Speakmans talk after Mowbray. In spite of all of my defence of Beale, I do not believe for one minute they would have had him on a shortlist of 2 or 3, when they decided Mowbray was to go. I suspect they have fallen for the foreign coaches are better story like so many. So this has the look of another poor effort somewhere in terms of head coach recruitment. I dont think it is knee jerk, but they seemingly havent been able to get who they would have targeted. KLD demands elite performance culture across the club. He might just get that with Beale, but I would be asking why we have twice now stumbled through a process after getting rid of a gaffer. Doesnt look very elite to me. I have voiced concern before about whether are attractive for coaches as we think we are. I have to say our record of firing coaches is awful, and not getting better. I honestly think some who might want think we arent to be trusted to keep our end of the bargain. Coaches want time, it isnt anymore like the old firefighter coaches, or those who buy their team, it is a longer process now. We dont allow time and it goes against us.

    Now, onto letting Beale do his job. I reckon after a nights kip, a win tomorrow, we all might start to look forward to what might be, rather than what might have been. Haway the lads.
     
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  19. Southern A

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    cracking post
     
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  20. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    If that's how relaxed golf makes you I might take it back up.

    Cracking post mate
     
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