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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Fly Me To The Moon

    Fly Me To The Moon Well-Known Member

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    It's gonna be Dodds. I'm accepting it now.
     
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  2. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    As others have said I doubt it will be Dodds. Dodds is speakmans man from Brum and I cannot believe he would expose him to potential failure as a long term caretaker and risk losing his man in the dressing room. Dodds is a constant in the coaching environment that provides the continuity.

    I can also see no real reason to have to wait for their target. Pay the compensation required, pay the salary and get it done. We can be promoted this season so lets back the ambition with action now.
     
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  3. Mackem-Tiz

    Mackem-Tiz Well-Known Member

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    Because the vast majority of fans would kick off if Mowbray was replaced then. The rest is history.
     
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  4. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

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    It will show that the owner has written the rest of the season off.
     
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  5. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    I think it would be an error but it might not just be down to money. If it was say Barry, would he want to see out the champions league or see out euro 24. Yes we could move elsewhere but what if he’s first choice. It does risk writing off our season though and maybe Dodds as our coach,
     
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  6. Wibble

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    If we win tomorrow, I'd half expect Dodds to stay
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Basing the rest of the season on an own goal or daft penalty decision would be ridiculous ...

    ... I really don't believe it for a second.

    I'm not knocking Rubberface, he's posted some decent stuff. It's just that people tell you weird stuff, in good faith, that they've been told in good faith. I had a message that Nigel Pearson was our preferred preferred replacement ...

    ... I'm not buying that either and didn't bother posting it.
     
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  8. Dave_39

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    Dodds 3/1 favourite on bet victor now
     
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  9. Culinary

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    Exactly, we're a smart club now (we really are, regardless of how much some struggle to accept it). We're not going to make a decision on our head coach appointment based on one result against a good side. It's nonsense
     
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  10. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Big ask imho. Tough game. I wouldn’t want my career to hinge on a win v in form Leeds.
     
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  11. Monkey69

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    I honestly do not think the bookies have any idea at the minute as they are swaying from one candidate to another and it looks like if somebody goes on line to place a 20 quid bet that can sway the bookies and change the favourite.
     
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  12. TopCat.

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    He'll stay regardless. Just not as Head Coach. Not on a permanent basis anyway
     
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  13. TopCat.

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    Course they don't. The odds are based on who is betting on what and they ensure that the odds cover their losses. They have absolutely zero Intel
     
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  14. Fly Me To The Moon

    Fly Me To The Moon Well-Known Member

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    I can't remember a managerial change being so quiet. Hope it's a case of them going about their business quietly and are working on getting the man they've been targeting rather than a case of no one wants it so well give it dodds if he wins tomorrow.
     
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    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    There is as much chance me getting it, why would anyone believe that utter tripe.
     
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  16. Dave_39

    Dave_39 Well-Known Member

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    yeah don't think they know anything
     
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  17. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

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    Dodds mite not want the managers job. Has it very cushy now, doing a cracking job in player development, gets the big job, doesn't work out, gone in 6 moths, has to start again.
     
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  18. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    Not a chance this hasn’t been planed and they will be loads of managers wanting a shot!
     
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  19. FellTop

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    I do wonder how attractive we really are. We all think we are a great opportunity, but I wonder what coaches and their representatives on the continent really think. The Athletic have done a decent piece today about us and the appeal we may, or may not have. One point that struck me was out wages to turnover ratio being around 62%, wheras Ipsiwch are at 115%. Forest went up with 200% and I bet with the exception of Luton most promoted teams are far higher than us. I am not saying we are wrong in our approach, but it is interesting to see how ambitious coaches may look at that.

    I also wonder about our salary for a head coach. No idea what it is, but it doesnt really feel like we have employed a top earner for a while.

    Sounds a bit negative I know, but I am not sure we are as attractive for some coaches as we might imagine. The young ones like Hellberg will be up for it you would think, but maybe Still has bigger fish to fry in his mind, given his already public rep. Just a thought.
     
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  20. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    Nothing against the guy...but hope its not Dodds. Very few of these in house promotions tend to go well...certainly not with us. Butcher, Sbragia and to a lesser degree Malcolm Crosy
     
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