Point taken of course. Not well . But I don’t think he would with the players we’d have in the premier league. And even if we did, at least it would be in the premier league
As soon as things go wrong in football why do we automatically jump on the sack the manager bandwagon. Is he not entitled a chance to turn it around. We all know the limitations in striking department and what he's working with but cmon things have been a lot, lot worse than this. If they wanted to bin him they should have been brave and done it in summer.We are dominating games and it's the fine margins that are costing us. Our xg in last two games was miles higher. That's more a personnel issue than a tactical one. I'm not some Mogga sympathiser and maybe he isn't the man for us. His substitutions can be baffling but in grand scheme of things we aren't a million miles away. A change of coach guarantees nothing
absolutely should not become personal. Especially for Mowbray who has been brilliant with the fans, comes across entirely genuine and is clearly doing everything he personally can
We need a plan B & C plain and simple. They boxed out Clarke and we kept still going ‘give it Jacky and hope for best’ Hakf the league will copy what they did so we need to be able to change it. We need to utilise Aouchiche more as he has that same magic in him, we need to rest Jobe and we need to get balls in early and follow up the second ball. Jobe scores we having a different conversation but we papering cracks if we do that have been looming for a good while now. As it stands, playoffs is highly unlikely despite the incredible talent we have individually.
I'm not advocating we sack him, not really. But he is solely responsible for training the players, picking the team, making the subs etc and we are worse this year, than last. He chops and changes the strikers in a desperate attempt to find someone to score a goal. Last night be picked a team that nullified our 2 main outlets by giving them zero support from full back. I'll be honest and say I have zero interest in "XG" it's only "G" that actually counts. A change of coach could make us worse, of course it could. It could also solve some of our problems. Right now I am #MowbrayIn, but ask me again in 3 games time.
my sentiments, although he didn’t use all the right players last night. He needs to bring back overlapping fullbacks and go wide. And stop with so many subs at once. Pointless. You need players to supply the forwards Tony. If he can’t see that results will lose him his job by Christmas. Shake yer head out Tony son. Get it right.
Agreed. The one time we played a long ball over the top, their centre halves **** themselves. Huddersfield are (were) 4th bottom for a reason, yet we didn't attempt to put their defence under any real pressure. Every corner hits the first man, the odd occasion where we did cross the ball, it comes in at shin height. For all the passing at the back, we never seem to then try to ping it in behind, or go for a diag to put the full back under pressure. Said it last night to the lads next to me - it's almost as if the easy/obvious/simple ball is too easy/obvious/simple and they want to show how good they are by chopping back inside, doing a spin then a step over before then rolling the ball backwards/sideways once the momentum of the attack is lost. There was a moment at the end of the 1st half (I think) where we cleared one of their attacks and the ball fell to Jobe in front of the East Stand. He had Clarke on the touchline ready to burst, and the RB was attacking the ball (leaving Clarke free). Someone line Dan Neil would have been on the half turn, known Clarke was there and just popped it off with the outside of his right foot, spun and been away to either take the cross from Clarke or distract one of the defenders. Instead Jobe (and I'm not singling him out, this is just one incident I remember because it was right in front of me) chop back infield (maybe he hadn't looked to see where Clarke was) and immediately was tackled by 3 Huddersfield players. Whether it's tactics, naivety or my ridiculously high standards there is something not right about how we are setting up and playing right now.
The option I would look at is, swap the wingers using a right footed player on the right and a left footed player on the left When was the last time we saw a winger bomb down the wing and hoy a cross in? They are unable to do this where they are playing, therefore are forced to cut inside every time. Waste of natural ability for me.
It’s too easy to play against. This is why we are only getting goals and results when teams attack us. A striker scoring goals alone won’t fix where we are we need the foresight to change mid game, and change big. We remain a good side and on the borders of a very, very good one. We have some of the best individual players in the league but we just need to simplify it some times. Its been said before, try wingers switching sides in game then rather than cut in and shoot, early balls in box, that’s a total change to the defending team and they need to adjust. Drop Jobe deeper and make them bring their defence further out as if they don’t he can run and shoot. Keep the wing backs wide and overlapping when teams are holding. There’s 3 variations off top of my head we have players to utilise and don’t.
Funny how us mods, whilst we occasionally disagree, mainly have identical thoughts!! This was my exact sentiment from last night, possibly with a little more angetpr and venom included, even without a drink (as I was driving…). Hope you’re right, Mowbray did wonders for us last season, and has, at times, done well this season, most of the time we play pretty well. But last night was dreadful. And I say that with optimistic glasses on too!! I think I am understating it!!
Unfortunately I have came to the conclusion that Mowbray has his favourites and will pick them regardless , how he can keep picking Roberts to play centre midfield I will never know , Seelt IS not a winger but played as one last night Roberts is a winger but has not really played as if he is one . Roberts has not scored a goal and possibly has one assist but compared to last season has contributed very little to the side this season yet still gets picked . Jobe is young but tends to lose the ball fairly often and possibly needs a rest . Last season we played to a system but that system has been tinkered with lately , Huggins has been removed even though he was playing quite well Roberts brought in off the wing where he does cause problems to the opposition or did until he was asked to play in a role he is not used to . Basically I would like Mowbray to revert to last seasons system using players suited to that system and stop being totally reliant on Jack Clarke or I think if things do not change his position will be in jeopardy .
Still don’t quite understand how having an opinion and sticking by it means you have an agenda, especially when the opinion is starting to become reality. If you speak out early doors you get accused of changing your opinion every game and if you stick by it you have an agenda, you can’t win unless you’re happy clapping. The lads got a lot of praise last season and rightly so. I do think the individual ability of certain players dug us out at times but TM has to get credit for giving us a brand of football thats the best we’ve seen for a long time - however as low as we’ve been the last 5-6 years we aren’t a small time team punching above our weight and unfortunately that means expectation is higher than average and with that comes pressure when things are going from bad to worse. KLD wanted PL football in 5 years when he took over which will mean we need to be promoted by the end of next season if he’s to achieve that. If we aren’t progressing come January is it right to just stick with TM and write 4 months off just to potentially finish mid table? Personally I think the hierarchy is more ambitious than that and will gamble on switching things up and going for promotion this season.
O/9 slows the play down, really, we all have our opinions but that one takes the cake. He is often facing do or die situations of others making and rarely lets the side down. He was our man of the match for me last night, a very low bar I agree, but he did score one and played the pass of the night that should have resulted in a second . He is playing four roles at once imo. But is like Ekwah being blamed for others mistakes some who havn't done as much all season but are automatic choices game after game playing in the static 4/2/3/1 formation which is the root of our problem, as we don't have the range of player to play it. I agree about Jobe .
the worst thing i have heard TM say recently is 'they have to be patient' with reference to the opposition parking the bus...as others have said, there are players making runs and mostly getting ignored (onien was the only one to put a nice ball through the middle for jobe) while they play it out wide and by then we struggle to get through the defence, last night there were several times a ball came out from the penalty area and it was then played backwards to start again when i would have wanted it lifted straight back in before they got organised again. there is a fine line between playing 'good stuff' and just playing 'tappy lappy' and we are not doing the good stuff as well as we did.
Looked on FotMob after the match and Seelt was our highest rated player closely followed by O’nien both pretty similar so you’re right probably was our MoM - how shocking is it that 2 defenders are our highest rated players against Huddersfield at home.
It's certainly an option. Clarke wouldn't score as many from the right but it'd give us better balance. I think the best thing to do would be for them to swap throughout the game to keep the opposition guessing, especially when it's one of those games when Clarke is getting nothing from cutting in from the left. Also play overlapping fullbacks and make sure we play them in and don't just use them as a decoy to cut inside. Do that and we become more unpredictable and the additional crosses from the fullbacks help feed the striker. Also stretches the play for the wingers to be more effective. None of it is rocket science but we're not doing it so it needs changing.
