Do you really think Nandos or McDonalds are making a choice based on nationality? By the way if that's your concern you should be talking about the British, like it or not that's our nationality. I guess that McDonalds (American company) and Nandos (South African chain) will employ anyone who will take the job, turn up on time and take the wages they pay. How many "English" people are applying? Or don't you have those statistics? Oh and what did you think of Mark Fish, George Costa etc playing for Charlton?
Of course they make that choice. They employ foreigners over English and have done so for many years. They actively seek out foreigners as this fits nicely into their company ethos, they recruit specifically for minorities which they hope will make people forget what goes into their burgers. English do go for these jobs but get fingered by the restaurant manager. The whole process is warped and unfair. The freedom of information act will help you find the answers. I do think you ought to find out how many English born workers were employed at the Olympic stadium site, go and google it, you'll be surprised. I am English and if you asked a Scotsman what nationality he was would he say British? Course not. As for costa, fish, etc, great cafc players that did not sleep 47 to a room and paid tax.
English is neither a nationality nor is it an ethnicity, I don't really care what a Scot would say because constitutionally you'd both be wrong. I promise you neither of these large organisations you originally mention will be employing illegals as you seem to want to imply and that both pay their staff so that their tax is paid via PAYE. I may be wrong but I guess most of them don't earn enough to pay tax. If it is nationality you are interested in and not colour then explain to me what company ethos would make them employ non EU citizens, which is the only legal distinction they are allowed to make, over EU citizens. Oh, and make up your mind is it Charlton are great for fielding all English players or they can field who they want so long as they pay tax?
I think one of the loop holes that does need to be closed is when a new business moves into an area of high unemployment and promises a percentage of local jobs for local people (regardless of nationality), an individual can be classed as local for living in an area for just one day! Nothing wrong maybe in moving to an area to seek employment, however, that was not the intention in giving some relief to the local issues.
The freedom of information act doesn't apply to private companies but I think you'd find that these eating establishments reflect the staff of their local communities. If staff are polite, give good customer service and a good all round experience to their customers it doesn't matter what their ethnic origin or nationality is and I have never come across a fast food restaurant where there aren't English or British staff and your comments are a gross distortion of the truth. Ageism is far more of an issue than nationality that's why there is high unemployment amongst the 16-24 and over 50s. And no not everyone who is English describes themselves as such, when doing the electoral register recently I ask people for their nationality, without prompting the overwhelming majority of people born in England, Scotland and Wales(and NI) living in the area I was canvassing described themselves as British, the number who said they were English I could count on the fingers of one hand, many did say UK as well.
They need to give more emphasis to people who have been signing on at JC Plus and have lived in that area over a considerable time.
If u don't care what a scot says about his nationality go up to one in the pub and ask him if he is British. If u then remind him about the constitution, You will then have a pint glass in the same place I suspect you put ur grapefruits. McDonalds have been fined over a million dollars for employing illegal workers according to fox news so ur wrong there with your all embracing promise, I can be bothered to check Nandos but your gonna be wrong. cafc can field anyone they want as long as they fit my criteria. I pay their wages after all. It's my choice and I have a right under the law of typical to decide if that player is worthy of the shirt and the job.
Can you reply to other posters without insults or posting unsavoury comments. That isn't humour it's puerile behaviour. I canvassed people born in Scotland who gave their nationality as British. There is a difference between employing people who do not have a legal right to work in the UK and people from different nationalities who do and you are deliberately putting both together to undermine workers with genuine rights. If you are that concerned about people working illegally why aren't you reporting them to the Home Office or is it just made up sensationalism for this board. The club pays the wages of their staff not an individual fan and it's entirely up to them who they employ. As far as I am aware CAFC also has a diversity policy and long may it continue.
I do not believe a canvass at an electrol register is a reliable assessment of people's view of their nationality. My reason for this would be that due to the ease of world travel, people have come accustomed to declarations at border controls of UK or British, hence a electoral role sort of represents authority, therefore people may not respond English, Scottish, etc.
Gosh, Fox News and the Daily Mail. I know an awful lot of Scots who a proud to British, some in the Scots Guards and some in Royal Regiment of Scotland. If a Scotsman resorted to violence it wouldn't alter what passport he held. Keep on shifting the goalposts if you like but I'm not sure when I mentioned grapefruits. Perhaps you are labouring under the misapprehension that you only have one dissentor on here, not virtually everyone who has responded to this thread.
The freedom of information act applies to public sector positions that is true and that is why that information can be checked readilfirst the olympic site as an example of the government screwing its own people. If you read the Sunday mail today, the boss of Nando in Croydon accepted that 7 of his 25 staff were British born, how is that reflective of the local population? Please come back to me on that 'distortion' or pop into a prets and do a head count in say any store and see if they have any British workers that reflect the ethnicity of the local area. As for your referendum point- I have never heard a Scotsman, ever call himself British. The only people that call themselves British are apologetic english and those with a false passport.
Actually I think you'll find Croydon is an area of relatively high employment and that a substantial percentage of the population are not British born, both factors I would imagine. Did the article in the Mail examine how many British born applicants there were, what hours they were prepared to work, for what wages, what was their experience in the resturant trade and how well they interviewed? How would a head count establish where someone was born? I think you need to separate ethnicity, place of birth, nationality, nation of residence, and community in order to be clear about where your coming from because I'm still confused as to who is who in all this. I am proud to be a Charlton Fan, a South Londoner, English, and British. So don't presume to call me apologetic because my NATIONALITY is British, that's not up for debate it is a fact, my head of state is HM Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britainand Northen Ireland and the Commonweath, and I proudly live in the bit referred to in that title as Great Britain, no apology.
My missus is back in 10 got to run, so it has been luverly debating with u all. Tomorrow I'm gonna do a new thread, 'would sepp blatter and stan collimore shake hands after dogging?
It does, the information is required to be given by law. Most of the electors I canvassed recently desribed themselves as British and not English and that included all ethnic groups.
CharltonPat. You sound like you are crying every time you type something. You need to man up, my friend. I understand that there are plenty of apologist-liberals on here, but you really take the biscuit. If you don't read the Guardian and visit your local West Indian eaterie twice a week, you are regarded as a caveman on here. So what if people read the Daily Mail? Does that automatically make someone a racist? Surely thinking such a way is bigoted in itself? Oh, I forgot, you can't be a bigot if you shop in your local Polish deli once a week. Once this country is taken over by foreigners, and we become the belittled race of whites, you will be wondering why you are not celebrated by your new overlords.The fact is that all of these immigrants are laughing at you for being so weak and welcoming. It is those of us who consider ouselves English who will be saying, 'We did tell you this would happen'. Pat, you must be sobbing your little heart out now. Oh the racism, the bigotry, woe oh woe! I can see Leaburn spitting feathers whilst burning pictures of Maggie Thatcher and the St George flag. SuperC is preparing his withering retort as we speak...
