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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

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    It works for her because they will kick up a ****storm, which the Police will have to respond to.

    Meanwhile the Palestine ceasefire march will be much more peaceful (I’m not going to pretend that 0.01% of this won’t have a bad element, but way way lower) and therefore not attract a response from the Police.

    Then Braverman can claim that the police are picking a side.
     
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  2. Shandy_top_89

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    The vast majority at the ceasefire march are there in favour of peace (Although there will be some unsavoury pro Hamas elements there it will be an extreme minority).

    Do I think they are naive and misguided, yes. Hamas and the Israeli Gov have absolutely no desire for it, Hamas is still holding hostages and remains a risk to Israel. On the other side Israel is clearly indiscriminately slaughtering Palestinian civilians. Neither side is in any mood to relent.

    But for the majority of ceasefire protestors they are there in the belief that a ceasefire would mean peace and therefore that they want weapons and a truce, naive or not.
     
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  3. Archers Road

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    She should be charged with conspiracy to incite a riot imo
     
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  4. Saintjoey

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    I agree with you but would still feel more favourably if some of these marchers chanted for the release of the hostages .
    Meanwhile in North London, several houses of ordinary Jewish families have been covered in red paint. Their crime? Displaying a mezuzah. So dangerous that these people are hiding under the guise of peace to outpour their hate.
     
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    Well stated #7 Yes, it’s difficult to balance all these “conflicting” positions.
     
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  6. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Do you have a link for this? I live in North London, and haven't seen or heard anything about it; though I do know many Jewish families are in fear at the moment, which of course is tragic.
     
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  7. Osvaldorama

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    The media coverage is absolutely laughable.

    If you’re white and go out to protest anything you’re “far right football hooligans”.

    But if you’re supporting Hamas and chanting antisemitic slurs and about genocide, it’s totally fine. The met police have lost the ****ing plot.

    Meanwhile everything was actually peaceful as soon as the police let them through

    https://x.com/tpointuk/status/1723300953451790638?s=46
     
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  8. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    No. Only in your weird labour propaganda warped brain is this caused by the Tories.

    This one is caused by Palestine protestors desecrating the memorial weekend in the capital city. Its disgraceful
     
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  9. Saintjoey

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    Will try to find it again. This particular house was in West Hampstead.
     
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  10. StJabbo1

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    What bollocks you spout when much of the tory party has been wanting rid of Braverman and support the march. I've made my differences with labour more than plain in many posts. You expose your intellectual deficiencies with such nonsense.
     
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    she was correct unfortunately. Anyone that would drape flags on war memorials this weekend is ****ing disgusting.

    And you are completely brain dead
     
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  12. Onionman

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    From that hotbed of left-wing wokery, the Daily Express:

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...urgh-station-assault-british-transport-police

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    Sounds awful. Possibly life-threatening.

    Vin
     
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  13. Osvaldorama

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    Well the media also failed to report on any of the acts of violence or fireworks fired at police by the Hamas terrorist supporters last weekend, so I have very little faith in any media reporting accurately.

    They seem to be doing their best to protect the Hamas supporters and paint everyone who disagrees with them as racist
     
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  14. Onionman

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    Serious, honest question. It is possible that you might ever say "Yes, it appears I was wrong?"

    EDIT: I ask because you utterly totally and completely believed (and repeated) what the Telegraph (the media) said. Fair enough. Then the Police investigated, issued a statement and you doubted the statement. Then the Express (a paper well over to your political view of the world) published and didn't even hint that there was a problem with the police investigation. So it makes me wonder what it would take for you to change your mind on something you believe and just say "Yep, I was misled". Remember, you believe it based upon a media report, the media in whom you have "very little faith"..

    Is there ANYTHING that will change your mind on what the actual facts are in this case? What would it be? This isn't an attack, I'm genuinely puzzled why you sometimes believe the media and sometimes don't. How do you decide when reporting is accurate (Telegraph original report) and inaccurate (Express report)?

    Vin
     
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  15. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    BBC reporter accompanying the 300,000 peace marchers:

    “I haven't seen any trouble from these crowds of people.”
     
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  16. Osvaldorama

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    Michael gove was attacked and assaulted by protesters

    Yes, they attacked an MP yet the media are pretending it was peaceful
     
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  17. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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  18. Osvaldorama

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    Only because the police turn a blind eye to the Hamas protestors, and treated the counter protestors like the worst criminals possible
     
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  19. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Which when it comes down to it, is what they actually are.
     
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    Only one of the groups reminds me of a National Front rally.
     
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