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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Gone For A Walk, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. Idi Amin

    Idi Amin Well-Known Member

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    Sunk cost fallacy!
     
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  2. Mckechnie Orange

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    Oh, I quite agree that he'd be better cutting his losses - but nowt will change until he accepts that.

    There's no one else responsible for their financial predicament than himself.
     
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  3. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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  5. Ullofaman

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    Shelbourne must win or draw tonight to secure 4th spot (last game of season over there). This does not guarantee them European football which would only be possible if Bohemians win the cup on Nov. 12th. As of right now, Shels are losing one nil!!! and the team below them (which just also happens to be Bohemians) are winning and have leapfrogged to the 4th spot. About an hour of playing time left.
     
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  6. Ullofaman

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    And it has just got worse - two down now
     
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    TWS and Foxes , Foxes look far better than when we beat them very fast wingers , TWS look a bit frail at the back
     
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  8. Ullofaman

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    Shels fight back. Score three minutes into 2nd half to make it 2-1 down. Other team have a man sent off in 4th minute of 2nd half. There is hope there yet.
     
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    Shels score again on 54th minute to make it 2-2. Will Jarvis the scorer!!!
     
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  10. Ullofaman

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    Jarvis strikes again on 63 minutes to make it 2-3 up for Shels
     
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  11. SydneyTiger14

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    Think it was Moylan who got the third.
     
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  12. Ullofaman

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    Apologies for that - you are right.
     
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  13. Ullofaman

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    2-4 up now. Looks like they are safe for 4th spot.
     
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  17. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    I suspect this is true, they want to have time to take stock and see what the next move forward is, which to some degree depends on whether they are in Europe or not.

    I think both Acun and Tan have learnt not to make knee-jerk decisions, so suspect they want to wait for the season to finish then sit down and decide which way forward.

    Duff I feel needs to calm down and not start coming out in the media criticising the club, I suspect that won't endear himself to either Acun or Tan.
     
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  18. Ullofaman

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    Hopefully, he (Acun) is not going to try another Shota plan with a manager of his liking plus a backroom team of his choosing plus a bunch of young talented Turks and some of the bright Academy players - Jarvis & Wood have been instrumental to their second half season success and it is appreciated but they are the exception. Bar one Portuguese guy, every other player is Irish and most probably several from the immediate vicinity. Shelbourne operate in a league that is almost parochial - the supporters are local, they think local, the idea of making the club an instant sterile success with no local or homegrown players or management will likely leave Acun with no homegrown supporters. These minor marginal clubs from small national leagues across Europe are all about community. A template for success would be to adopt a plan like Rosenberg although this strategy tends to produce just one major team within these leagues.

    Found this from 2003:
    During Rosenborg's brief stay in Dublin last week the club's director of sport, Rune Bratseth, admitted that programmes of heavy investment by rival clubs aimed at enabling them to counter the growing dominance of his own side had left every other one of the top flight clubs in serious financial difficulty.

    It is difficult to overstate the scale of Rosenborg's achievements since the start of the 90s but the background against which the club decided to expand was certainly favourable. It enthusiastically availed of a Norwegian FA programme under which full-time players were subsidised and also benefited from the association's policy of ensuring that the best young players stayed at home.

    But long-time coach Nils Arne Eggen and the directors of the club made a huge contribution too with the former adopting a tactical approach that his players could clearly understand and then sticking with it rigidly - potential replacements including current boss Aage Hareide were only considered if they too favoured 4-3-3, while the board spent heavily on transforming the club's outdated facilities.

    By the time Eggen left, Rosenborg had just won their 11th successive league title and though it took them three years to turn their domestic success into achievement on the European stage, he had, by the time he departed, also led them to the group stages of the Champions League for eight straight years.

    Players were sold for significant fees, prize-money rolled in from UEFA and the club's domestic revenue soared as its attendances climbed dramatically. It also became a magnet for commercial revenue in a country where companies wishing to be associated with footballing success only had one realistic option.

    The money seems to have been spent with remarkable foresight. Large sums were invested training facilities, academies and the brand new 22,000 seat stadium Lerkendal Stadium was completed three years ago.

    The capacity seems modest until you consider that Trondheim has just 140,000 residents.
     
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    joint-worst team in the league finally wins a game and it's only november shocker!

    sheff utd are still last, but are now level on points with burnley after beating wolves at home this afternoon, finally winning at the 11th attempt..

    they went ahead in the 72nd minute and held that lead for a magnificent and unprecedented 17 minutes before wolves equalised in the 89th. fergie time had stretched the game to 100 minutes when they were awarded a penalty and actually scored it, to make the score 2-1 with almost a minute to hang on.
     
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    man city 6 haaland 0 puzzler!

    frequent scorers swindon managed 4 in their cup tie at home to national league aldershot, but waited to start scoring until after aldershot had scored 7. alas, the come-back of the century ran out of time.

    whitby's recurring duane darby nightmares came rushing back today as they lost 7-2 at bristol rovers in the cup. as it happened, it wasn't a case of two players scoring all the goals, because seven different players - including a whitby player - scored for rovers and two others scored for whitby, and the match ball got to play another day.
     
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