Just watched the game on-line with ESPN coverage. They had John Barnes and Kevin Keegan as pundits and all I can say what a pair of pricks!!! No a decent word to say about us, saying very pretty to watch but nothing productive etc etc. The had a bit of a point but passing and probing is The Swansea way. Just a bit narked at the way Keegan had a go, as he kept saying that we had no plan B. Now if that's not the pot calling the kettle etc, when he managed can remember when Newcastle could score but never defend. Just makes his meltdown on TV all those years ago even better. The boys did us proud yet again. Proud to be a JACK!!!!
Keegan is a great manager and an asset to any club he deems to grace , untill it goes tits up and he ****s off and leaves them in the ****
...and when did Chris Waddle become a Man U fan? I'm sure I heard him say at one point that Michael Carrick was "dominating" the midfield. Umm, was he watching the same game as me? It seems that even though we're almost a third of the way through the season, some so called experts still can't get over the fact that we're Welsh, play an effective style of football that runs risks but ultimately brings success, and don't roll over for the richer clubs when we play them. Some of the commentry today was farcical. I'd rather be listening to Steve "charisma" Claridge.
Boy I'm glad I don't subscribe to that load of crap. The whole thing was as if we were in the PL just to make up the numbers and shouldn't be there. Waddle another example of an ex pro who think they are pundits and commentators. ESPN = Very poor coverage. Glad were back on Sky next.
Take a chill pill lads... we lost 1 nil to what I considered as possibly Man Utd strongest available line up/a fresh Man U line up/ a side which will possibly challenge for Euro glory. Forgive me if I missed something, but it was a mistake that cost us the goal and a mistake that cost us the equaliser.... against Man Utd! Lets not forget where we have come from. Did we really expect to be unbeaten at home in the Premier League for a whole season! When Fergie tries to build up his own sides lack of chances by using mind games/ deflection, it says something. Very proud to be a Jack tonight. And to those that are upset, great!! All the more seats available for my fellow true supporters who will follow them, not only in the glory days. I admit, at one point I was cursing BR for not taking off Gower earlier. Then I came home and saw his interview on ESPN. He took full responsibility for the goal, deflecting any blame from Angel. What other manager have you seen do that? If I was being led by that man, I would try and beat him out of the trenches.....NEW CONTRACT PLEASE- SORT IT OUT! STID
I agree with you swims but i think by now we have earned the respect we deserve and so called expert pundits need not be as negative as they were on ESPN today, we had a more honest assessement off Alex Ferguson and the Man U players than we did off the studio team
Bongo, this is not a criticism as I agree with what you say. However, at the end of the season we do not want the likes of SAF and any other respected managers stating how good we were and how they liked the style we play .... we MUST be there to do it again next season. Their praise does not get us points .... we must take these slim chances, and we must stop the mistakes. Two mistakes, Arsenal & MU have cost us 6 points, they could be costly (about £90M) next season.
Well the plaudits are there for us, but we need points as well, and I think we were good for a draw today as well as the gunners, so 2 points dropped IMO not 6! Also staying up is worth circa £40m not £90m as mentioned above, still it's rather a large sum of money and we want to earn it so vital to gain the points needed.
jackswan and jager i completly agree with you mistakes have been made that have cost us and it might come back and bite us but there have been lots of positives as well, and quiet a few of the pundits are not picking up on that, thats my only gripe really
Well we know that most of the pundits are muppets, and god knows why these media companies pay them to utter their drivel, I don't listen to any of it as there is no point, I look at how we play myself and make judgement on what I see, or read up on a few different media companies to gauge it, mostly those are not British media except the bbc who are better than most.
The pundits were total ****te on ESPN. As said before, were they watching the same game we were. A mistake cost us again today, against a side that put 8 past Arsenal. Im sure Leon had 100% pass rate again, and when Joe came on he was great. Never rated Kegan as a manager, when it gets tough, he fooks off. Im more than happy losing 0-1 to the premier league champions. If we keep to our game, and strengthen in a bit in January, we'll be fine.
I know a lot of people got ESPN for the month just for the Swans game. Perfomances like the Swans gave will keep us interested in Swansea. Performances like the pundits gave will not help ESPN keep their new customers from continuing with the subscription. STID
Think the MOTD pundits were a lot more complimentary to the swans, they were right in some ways about teams like utd pouncing on mistakes, but it looked offside to me. But Hansen saying about the philosophy of Brendan and it was a mistake to play like that, I'm sorry but he is wrong, we play the way we play, our philosophy should not change no matter the team, the result was 0-1 to utd not 0-5 , we contained them and took the game to them! We made a mistake and all teams do so in play in every single game, we were punished for that error yesterday yes, but the system of play we have will work far more than it will fail, sorry we playing a team that is worth £100s of millions, they have some of the best players in the world, we were more than a match for them!
Alan Hansen has proved, surprisingly, to be supportive of our way of playing and our footballing ethic - unlike that prat Collymore. With regard to Hansen's comments about Rangel's mistake (he made a glaring second that we got away with) I have mixed feelings. Brendan's philosophy about playing our way out of trouble is commendable BUT surely there are times when this is good practice and times when definitely it is not. I feel the goal we conceded was an example of the latter if I'm honest. It could and should have been avoided. Playing good football is commendable but even the best teams only play football in the proper areas. After all, if the ball was pinging about pin ball fashion in the Barca six yard box there is no way they would pass it there. The ball would be despatched out of the danger area by the first heavy boot that could be laid on it. Quite right, too!! That is not abandoning your footballing ethics, it is showing common sense and professionalism. So it's all a matter of degree and judgement. The best teams know the areas to play and where not to play; they know the teams that they can take liberties with in those areas and those they dare not. We are still learning that because Man Utd is definitely not a team to play tip tap against when they are pressing you hard on the edge of your box. Why not take the opportunity to vary the play in that sort of situation? It could actually catch out the opposition providing the front men are alert and savvy to the situation. A long ball up the line to Dyer or down the channel to Graham could turn defence into attack in an instant - something opposing teams might not expect given the way we play. At the very least the ball is well away from the danger area and we haven't conceded - as we did yesterday. I sensed that Alan Hansen was frustrated on our behalf - like him or not, he knows the score in these situations. He's been there, seen it, done it at the highest level. I think he wants us to succeed actually, because he was quietly tearing his hair out at the way we shot ourselves in the foot and pointedly accused Buck of a degree of naivety with his "football at any cost" philosophy. A little fanciful, I know, but we could actually have won that game. Take away the defensive howler, add the "goal" that Sincs would score 999 times out of a thousand and we could have won. We ran the second half and I don't buy the argument that Utd were sitting on their lead. Did they sit back when they hit 8 past Arsenal? Did they hell! Yesterday they were forced back and reduced to hoofball counter attacks. It was quality hoofball as you would expect from a team with their ability but hoofball nonetheless; and they did it because they knew we were capable of hurting them. After an edgy start, the lads did us proud yesterday. They showed they belong against a world class team and I felt that they well deserved a draw. However, we do need some quality additions and, dare I say it, a leader who will sort out some of our innocence on the pitch. Can you imagine how a Roy Keane type would have reacted to that goal we conceded? The encouraging thing is that we might now be able to attract some decent quality to the team given our fast growing reputation. I hope that we will spend some cash in January. It needn't be a fortune. Perhaps we could find an experienced player (foreign wanting PL time on his life CV) nearing the end of his career who can help the lads around him. Oh, and Buck should be presented with an acceptable contract asap!! Finally, a humorous note. I watched the game in a pub new to me - no time to get to more familiar territory. The barman told me that the equipment was Bulgarian????? The commentary was in Russian - or some Slavic language - and had all the passion of Clement Freud delivering a monologue on the merits of garden fertiliser. To compound the situation, the background sound was muted to virtually inaudible so there was no atmosphere from the crowd whatsoever. Then, to cap it all, what little atmosphere there was, was suddenly assailed by Barbara Streisand singing "Memories" on the jukebox!!!!!!!!!!! The perpetrator was summarily ejected wondering what he had done wrong and I believe the riot is still going on.
Haha! I agree about Hansen ivor, he does seem to be a closet Swans fan! I think having played in a Liverpool team famed for playing good football, too, he can appreciate more than lots what the Swans are trying to do. Also agree that players need to put their foot through the ball a little more when under pressure. Having said that, I don't think playing football in our box will cost us too many points this season, and I'd be gutted (and surprised) if we got relegated because of a points total that was lower because of the result of numerous defensive errors. About the ESPN coverage...well...it was pretty clueless wasn't it? The best part for me was Keegan saying "Swansea have no Plan B". Keegan?! Saying that?! Hahahahaha. "Attackattackattack!!!"
I watched and enjoyed the game, as a neutral I thought that it was a good test of how far Swansea have come, it was the first visit of one of the top sides and Swansea didn't look outclassed, and were worth a point, a bad mistake led to the Utd goal, and the Swans missed a chance they would have normally taken, I thought that the Swans were unlucky to lose, a draw would have been about right IMO.
Agree, Prophet. United easily took the first half and we applied most of the pressure after the break. If Sincs had stroked the ball into that empty net.......... A draw would have been fair.
Have to agree Ivo with everything you said. Who in the hell would pay for Barbara Streisand on the the Jukebox. I will say that the BBC boys have been very good. Lawro does like us, he's always very fair in his assessment of us. Hansen again very complimentary but will highlight our deficiencies, I can take criticism if is positive etc. Must say though not sure if old Lineker likes us, might be to do with his Cardiff wife, just joking. It's funny that not were in the PL that I can feel disappointed yet proud that having lost to Arsenal and Man Utd by a single goal. Just goes to show how far we have come as a team and club. Onwards & Upwards.
these pundits only say what they see and some of the critical comments are pretty close to the mark, the point is man utd are one of the top clubs in the world and have had years to finely tune the team, we on the other hand have only had a few months in the premiership and still green behind the gills and are not by a long way the full article, we may not like sometimes what these ex footballers say but they do have a point,.....its ok to like the comments of managers after the game but the non complementary comments are the ones that need to look at......
Fair point, Dai. We are still learning and it's always made sense to concentrate on improving your weaknesses.
