1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic VAR

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Oliver's Army, Apr 24, 2021.

?

VAR - Yes or No

  1. Yes

    17 vote(s)
    27.9%
  2. No

    44 vote(s)
    72.1%
  1. Daz

    Daz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2019
    Messages:
    4,664
    Likes Received:
    12,416
    That’s an absolute joke of a decision, VAR needs scrapping
     
    #41
  2. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    4,761
    Likes Received:
    6,853
    No, it needs to be used properly.

    That's a properly corrupt decision.
     
    #42
  3. Monkey69

    Monkey69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,045
    Likes Received:
    10,943
    By all accounts it was given for off side and not for a foul and if that was the case then you could say it was a marginal decision with the Scottish player being off side but had no real impact on the goal so if was not interfering then it probably should have stood. Again VAR should only be used to correct mistakes and obvious errors which this was not and should not be used to referee the game.
     
    #43
  4. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    18,446
    Likes Received:
    29,986
    Just seen the ruled out Burnley goal, if it's on a knife edge and they clearly don't know for sure, as shown by the length of the stoppage, just let it stand for ****s sake. Such a broken system.
     
    #44
  5. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2019
    Messages:
    4,268
    Likes Received:
    12,570
    see them every week and it seems like every game, millimeters off side is not a 'clear and obvious error' they have turned it into a mockery, the fans sang it right.
     
    #45
  6. Oliver's Army

    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2019
    Messages:
    32,282
    Likes Received:
    62,379
    I haven't seen that one but by all accounts it took 5 whole minutes to sort it out.

    They can **** off if they think fans want to hang about for 5 mins for a decision. Absolute farce.
     
    #46
  7. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    4,761
    Likes Received:
    6,853
    A time limit would help. If it's taking 5 minutes to sort with the benefit of replays from every angle then it's clearly not a clear and obvious error.
     
    #47
    samwise_new, Oliver's Army and Nacho like this.
  8. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,723
    Likes Received:
    27,750
    I’ve said before, until a manager has the bottle to take his team off and say we aren’t putting up with this s hit and the other teams back him, I’m afraid we are stuck with this crap for the foreseeable.
     
    #48
    cumbrianmackem and Daz like this.
  9. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    18,446
    Likes Received:
    29,986
    It was one of them where you're talking about a millimetre either way and nobody could agree, and if that wasn't ridiculous enough in itself the system isn't accurate enough to allow that level of scrutiny.

    Anything like that should stand, Burnley were robbed.
     
    #49
  10. Monkey69

    Monkey69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,045
    Likes Received:
    10,943
    I have said before that VAR is not the problem it is the ****wits with their fingers on the buttons and the idiot in charge of the pgmol to blame
     
    #50

  11. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    4,761
    Likes Received:
    6,853
    Yep. It works fine in other countries. Worked fine at the World Cup for the most part.

    Those places don't have as much money bet on them though......
     
    #51
    Monkey69 likes this.
  12. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2019
    Messages:
    4,268
    Likes Received:
    12,570
    the burnley one took over 5 minutes because those doing the VAR started with lines set at the wrong angle, i mean if it is that easy to 'offset' the guidelines there is no hope for it to be 100% fair and accurate.

    easy to move a line to show onside/offside if that is the case, there was nowt wrong with the way it has always been except the 'experts' found a new toy (camera angles) to play with and started the league positions if decisions had gone differently...and i dare bet you now they did not watch every game for the full 90 with every camera angle shot to make sure.
     
    #52
  13. Daz

    Daz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2019
    Messages:
    4,664
    Likes Received:
    12,416
    I still think it needs to be scrapped
     
    #53
    cumbrianmackem and rooch 3 like this.
  14. Random lad

    Random lad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2019
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    1,196
    VAR is not the problem, it is the officials using the system poorly
     
    #54
  15. Snaggey

    Snaggey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    8,212
    Likes Received:
    41,313
    Did anyone see the rugby World Cup final last night....the overturned try right at the end?
    Var got it spot on.
    Done really quick, communicated by the miked-up ref to the players. Correct decision, no arguments from the players.

    VAR done efficiently and effectively.....the way it should be done.
     
    #55
    gelders pie and The Exile II like this.
  16. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3,724
    Likes Received:
    10,476
    VAR is the problem IMO. It assumes to do jobs it cannot do.

    It cannot possibly get offsides right. It uses random angles, using lines thicker than the ball with no real reference to when the ball was played, just a fuzzy image, arbitrarily interpreted.

    The tech is just not there and football does not have the humility to learn from other sports who have used similar for far longer. We regularly see and hear rules being made up on the hoof just to make VAR look okay.

    And even all of it's multiple and obvious flaws aren't the worst of it. The worst of it is that it deprives the paying spectator of the moment they go for. The immediate second after a goal has been taken away and replaced with a more hopeful celebration.

    Awful thing, and it is ruining football.
     
    #56
  17. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3,724
    Likes Received:
    10,476
    Yes they do it better. But they are dealing with actual film of events, and don't seek to impose external factors such as wobbly offside lines onto them.

    And they still missed a pass on Friday night by Argentina that was nearly two foot forward and led to a try!
     
    #57
  18. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,723
    Likes Received:
    27,750
    That’s why I’m not bothered about promotion even if we never get promoted, I’m happy.
     
    #58
    rowley and gelders pie like this.
  19. Oliver's Army

    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2019
    Messages:
    32,282
    Likes Received:
    62,379
  20. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2019
    Messages:
    14,889
    Likes Received:
    33,787
    When I watched the Liverpool game on motd on Sunday, they showed the var call for offside

    Screenshot_20231114_221436_Photos.jpg

    If no. 20 scored, yeah, I'd give offside. However, Nunez has half of his foot past the defender, that in my eyes is level. Why are we measuring in centimetres? Needs binning.
     
    #60

Share This Page