The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 10th October)

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Having to check names on a lot of these posts to make sure I didn’t write them. For how long have I been pointing out the positives relegation would bring, the awful state of the pl and how much more honest and watchable the championship would be. We now have a great chance of winning every game rather than last season having about a one in eight chance and how. Many times some were settling for simply not being battered
 
My thoughts. Does VAR mean we moan more about decisions? Nah. Not for me. We used to moan about refs decisions for weeks months and years after a match long before before VAR came along

I don’t really care about VAR - works ok when applied correctly (ie only in other countries). Yes it’s been hilariously bollox here - but it isn’t worth getting so worked up about.

As for PL v the championship. I’m genuinely happy for people who enjoy us beating substandard teams in the champ… but it’s not for me. I’d rather see the club dining at the top table even if it means feeding on scraps.

I’ve heard comments recently like ‘we’d have lost that game last season’. My thought is, well if we’d played qpr and Bristol city every week in the PL last season we’d probably have done all right.

What’s the objective for those who love the championship? That we do ok but not well enough to get promoted every year? Sport for me us about being the best you can be … not about winning every week because your opponents are sh*t.
 
Having to check names on a lot of these posts to make sure I didn’t write them. For how long have I been pointing out the positives relegation would bring, the awful state of the pl and how much more honest and watchable the championship would be. We now have a great chance of winning every game rather than last season having about a one in eight chance and how. Many times some were settling for simply not being battered
Total nonsense you old grouch.

For the record we beat Man City and Liverpool away, plus Spurs and Chelsea at home with also many creditable draws against Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, City etc etc and that's before we come onto absolutely wiping the floor with the whole bottom half of the PL during our first season back.
 
Total nonsense you old grouch.

For the record we beat Man City and Liverpool away, plus Spurs and Chelsea at home with also many creditable draws against Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, City etc etc and that's before we come onto absolutely wiping the floor with the whole bottom half of the PL during our first season back.
You’re selecting isolated results, very isolated. We averaged six or seven wins each of last two seasons and can’t remember us doing any floor wiping. And by the way I’m a wise old grouch to you
 
You’re selecting isolated results, very isolated. We averaged six or seven wins each of last two seasons and can’t remember us doing any floor wiping. And by the way I’m a wise old grouch to you
Sorry but it's you who's choosing to focus on the negative aspects of our time in the PL.

The rest of us are remembering great away wins at Villa and Wolves plus beating Newcastle 5-2 at home and then backing it up by winning at St James Park later in the season Also how about 1-3 down to Bounemouth and then staging a sensational coming back to win 4-3. The list could go on and on with a great away wins at Everton and also Leicester. Shall I mention winning 3-0 at Watford or the absolutely amazing last day escape of all escapes down at Brentford.

It wasn't all the doom and gloom you would have us believe was it.
 
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Sorry but it's you who's choosing to focus on the negative aspects of our time in the PL.

The rest of us are remembering great away wins at Villa and Wolves plus beating Newcastle 5-2 at home and then backing it up by winning at St James Park later in the season Also how about 1-3 down to Bounemouth and then staging a sensational coming back to win 4-3. The list could go on and on with a great away wins at Everton and also Leicester. Shall I mention winning 3-0 at Watford or the absolutely amazing last day escape of all escapes down at Brentford.

It wasn't all the doom and gloom you would have us believe was it.
About 75%
 
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My thoughts. Does VAR mean we moan more about decisions? Nah. Not for me. We used to moan about refs decisions for weeks months and years after a match long before before VAR came along

I don’t really care about VAR - works ok when applied correctly (ie only in other countries). Yes it’s been hilariously bollox here - but it isn’t worth getting so worked up about.

As for PL v the championship. I’m genuinely happy for people who enjoy us beating substandard teams in the champ… but it’s not for me. I’d rather see the club dining at the top table even if it means feeding on scraps.

I’ve heard comments recently like ‘we’d have lost that game last season’. My thought is, well if we’d played qpr and Bristol city every week in the PL last season we’d probably have done all right.

What’s the objective for those who love the championship? That we do ok but not well enough to get promoted every year? Sport for me us about being the best you can be … not about winning every week because your opponents are sh*t.
I’m not saying I don’t want promotion, of course I would, I’m just saying I hate VAR so much it’s making me switch off premier league football and football was just about all I watch on Sky, I can’t remember the last time I watched a whole match. It’s just been refreshing in the championship without it, refs letting a few more tackles go, the sort of game I like even though the quality isn’t as good. And I don’t deny it’s been nice to win a few.
 
Having to check names on a lot of these posts to make sure I didn’t write them. For how long have I been pointing out the positives relegation would bring, the awful state of the pl and how much more honest and watchable the championship would be. We now have a great chance of winning every game rather than last season having about a one in eight chance and how. Many times some were settling for simply not being battered
The woke ****s bang on about EDI but there isn't much equity and fairness when the top six just buy success and **** the rest, **** the Premier league, in fact let the ****s have their super league and have **** all to do with their respective countries leagues go back to leagues 1,2,3 and 4, its more exciting and fair
 
The woke ****s bang on about EDI but there isn't much equity and fairness when the top six just buy success and **** the rest, **** the Premier league, in fact let the ****s have their super league and have **** all to do with their respective countries leagues go back to leagues 1,2,3 and 4, its more exciting and fair

Knowing our luck we’d probably end up part of the super league getting tonked and finishing bottom every season with no relegation back to the proper leagues <doh> we’d be stuck there in a football purgatory <yikes>
 
Knowing our luck we’d probably end up part of the super league getting tonked and finishing bottom every season with no relegation back to the proper leagues <doh> we’d be stuck there in a football purgatory <yikes>
Jammy would consider that a roaring success. We’d be dining at the famous top table setting records for goals conceded again
 
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I’m not saying I don’t want promotion, of course I would, I’m just saying I hate VAR so much it’s making me switch off premier league football and football was just about all I watch on Sky, I can’t remember the last time I watched a whole match. It’s just been refreshing in the championship without it, refs letting a few more tackles go, the sort of game I like even though the quality isn’t as good. And I don’t deny it’s been nice to win a few.

Only the first para was aimed at you fella.

Accept everyone gets their kicks in different ways - there’s no right and wrong here. I’ll always want my team to win but I don’t get much excitement out of a boring win over QPR in the championship. I get/got more satisfaction from a competitive performance and a draw in the PL.

Where does it end? Oh we’re not winning enough in the champ… wouldn’t it be great to drop a division and win more in League one? Jermaine Beckford eh? Fck that we’d romp league 2.

Slippery slope.

Aspire to be the best. Winning is relative. So sayeth milkyboy.
 
Only the first para was aimed at you fella.

Accept everyone gets their kicks in different ways - there’s no right and wrong here. I’ll always want my team to win but I don’t get much excitement out of a boring win over QPR in the championship. I get/got more satisfaction from a competitive performance and a draw in the PL.

Where does it end? Oh we’re not winning enough in the champ… wouldn’t it be great to drop a division and win more in League one? Jermaine Beckford eh? Fck that we’d romp league 2.

Slippery slope.

Aspire to be the best. Winning is relative. So sayeth milkyboy.
You need a bottomless pit of money to be the best, if not, a coach like Bielsa who can actually make players better not buy them like Pep, oh and you need to be able to tell VAR to change their rules if you're a scouse **** who doesn't like their decisions
 
I agree as long as they’re good enough to hold down a starting place. Never sure about the “they’re great in the dressing room”. Surely that’s the coaching team’s job?

They are there for back up with the squad depth as well as filling in as and when. I feel that's a better way to nurture them so they help the young uns and hopefully keep injury free.