Unfortunately we can't replay the game against Argentina because Maradona is no longer with us. He even admitted to cheating.
First Klopp wanted the VAR recording released and he got it Now he is asking for the game to be replayed. He goes on and on. Give him one thing, then he tries for the next. Reminds me of my Mother. RIP.
You are right that bad decision making has always been part of football. You are also right that TV has opened a Pandora's Box, but it really shouldn't be that way. Multiple cameras covering every angle obviously highlights errors - whether by players or officials - but the images should assist correct decision making, yet we see little evidence of that. Sports like cricket and rugby (both codes) tend to get it right; technology is used properly and on and off field officials talk through their decisions. Sometimes there are issues which are not resolved wholly satisfactorily (for example, whether catches were "grounded"), but 95% of decisions are uncontroversial. I think that the difference with football is that the rules are badly drafted and even with the help of technology, the right decision isn't always obvious. They really should get offides right, but even those can come down to whether the line is drawn correctly to a fraction of a millimetre. But who knows what is allowed when tackling or challenging for the ball? You are also right that you just have to move on; all teams suffer. Contrary to what many believe there is no conspiracy and most officials try to get it right, even when failing abysmally.
Would be interesting to do stattery on the really erroneous (dis)allowed goal + red card decisions each season. Specifically : do a hypothetical FT score adjustment + end of season pts total. and seeing what effect it had on the end position of the beneficiary/robbed club. As a by-product you would of course get stats on clubs dimensioned by beneficiary/robbed.
I think that the bad decisions, bad luck, good luck that exists in football are part of the reason that it is the most popular sport in the world. It reflects life far more closely than other sports. If you succeed in regulating it and removing bad decisions I think it would lose something that we love to hate. When our team wins it often carries baggage that makes it sweeter. If we play Liverpool in the CL again and win we will enjoy it more because of what happened in that final. When we beat United 6 - 1 some us remembered that goal that wasn't and thought well we didn't need it this time did we. We have to play Liverpool at Anfield this season and that game will carry an extra charge now. We suffer and when we win it's sweeter because of that. Football carries that like no other sport.
Milan would like the 2005 final replayed too Starting in the 60th minute, with Slippy G getting booked for a dive when Milan were 3-2 up
The fact is that despite our constant bemoaning of refs and the standard of refereeing (and yes I am as guilty as anyone), they do get most decisions right, most VAR controversies are close calls that remain subjective decisions that no one can get get right 100% of the time. Saturdays VAR was a terrible decision , but contrary to what Klopp is saying its not the only time that it has got it wrong and the league and Liverpool need to thing very carefully about the ultimate impact agreeing for the game to be replayed has on a world wide basis. I would have been annoyed if it was against us, but I think by now I would have moved on to the next game. As many of the Liverpool fans here appear to have done.
Keep up, B&W. Everyone knows this was the First Refereeing Mistake in Recorded History, and regrettably it affected Liverpool's chances of winning a game. As is well known, the decision not to award Suarez a red card after he stamped and then mma kicked Scott Parker, or Jota the same after he kicked Skipp in the face, were inch perfect calls. As were the penalty for the ball hitting Sissoko's armpit and the non penalty when Mane tripped Son in the box with 88mins on the clock. Exemplary decisions, each and every one. No sir, this is definitely the First Mistake in World History. Jürgen Klopp says so and Jamie Carragher has seconded it so it must be true.
please log in to view this image 95th minute. Couldn't have possibly seen this blatant foul, though. Apparently...
The same linesman somehow failed to spot the offside on Man Utd's 3rd goal: Old Horseface is just offside the whole time! It's not even close. The lino didn't last long after the Watford v Reading balls up. Stuart Attwell's still with us though, of course.
Let's be honest here, TV has caused this problem with multi angle Slo Mo showing of each decision. I am "getting" old now but think many on these boards are of the same generation, when you went to a live match and called "foul, Offside" etc you waited then said to your mate/those around you "ref said no" and that was it. Now with all the modern day camera footage the human element has been taken out of the game yet in essence it's still played and goverened by humans at live human speed.
I used to be for VAR in all sports. Now I'm against VAR in the PL unless and until it can be human proofed. Better to have just the one level of incompetence.
TMO in Rugby union has it near perfect IMHO. But as I say, their mindset for doing it is fundamentally different
