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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Sep 28, 2023.

  1. The Huddlefro

    The Huddlefro Well-Known Member

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    The noise from the club around this, especially Klopp’s comments (as I have read them anyway, haven’t seen the direct quote with context) sets an embarrassing precedent for any time Liverpool get a favourable decision, or an incorrect one even, in the future. Guess what he and anyone else connected to the club is going to get asked afterwards now.

    Would have been better off filing the complaint, as they initially did, and advocating for change alongside all the clubs. We’ve all had bad decisions and have a vested interest in the system working better after all.
     
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  2. luvgonzo

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    I agree. We've made it about us and it's a wider issue, we'd have had more success looking for overall change.
     
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  3. Crackermanjack2

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    The point is that there have been many times when Liverpool have had very controversial decisions go for them. Spurs fans obviously remember the champions league final. And of course the final score was 2-0, but that penalty completely changed the game.
    I think chelsea fans would quote the champions league game, where the ball didn’t cross the line and they ended up losing 1-0. These are just off the top of my head, but every club has **** decisions go against them.

    Yes it was a shocking mistake, but these things happen. Liverpool need to get over it and just use it to channel focus for the rest of the season.
    This whole narrative to get the game replayed, from a large proportion of the fanbase and now, most embarrassingly, from the manager is going to give rival fans huge amounts of ammunition to throw at you for the rest of the season if any debatable decision goes Liverpool's way.
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He actually didn't. They probably didn't show it on TV but he was having a meltdown.
    He went full Angry Chav on the ref when one of his coaches got a booking, for example.
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    That kind of ****^, though with different teeth, obviously.
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Why? Are you going to dig out that unknown Slovenian again?

     
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  6. Blue and White

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    Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp on why a replay is the right thing to do: "The argument against that probably will be that if you open that gate then everybody will ask for it. I think the situation is that unprecedented that it didn't happen before. Something like that, as far as I can remember, never happened that's why I think a replay would be the right thing.

    Has a selective memory. Never happened before.
     
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  7. Blue and White

    Blue and White Well-Known Member

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    I have the game recorded on SKY. He can come round and watch the replay
     
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  8. luvgonzo

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    I've said I'm against a replay. And "a large proportion of the fanbase" is nonsense.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Nobody has ever been robbed by a bad offside decision.
    Certainly not Wolves against Liverpool last season in the FA Cup, for example. Didn't happen.
     
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  10. luvgonzo

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    The Chelsea game is not a good example imo because it was a nailed on penalty anyway. I suppose we could have missed the penalty though.
     
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  11. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    And the keeper probably would've been sent off for the foul, too.
    Cheated Milan in the final by chalking off a perfectly good goal and diving for the equaliser, though.
     
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  12. luvgonzo

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    It was a great final, I don't recall any really contraversial moments.
     
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  13. Crackermanjack2

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    Fair point. It’s probably just the vocal ones on Talksport that stick in the mind!
    On the chelsea match, would you then re-start that match from a penalty and that point in the game?! <laugh>
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    This Means More diving.
     
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    Looking forward to Ange’s press conference later this week as I’m sure he will have some witty comments to make on this.
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Adrian Holmes, the linesman who flagged Diaz offside, has been relegated to the Championship.
    He's been sent to Millwall. That's not elementary, my dear Whatsapp.
     
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  17. The RDBD

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    So much anger from Mouserdom on this. :(

    We need to come together, and sing praise to
    our lord and saviour, who died on the pitch for our sins ...

     
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  18. luvgonzo

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    Nailed on that. :biggrin:
     
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  19. Left on the Shelf

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    The most ridiculous thing about this exaggerated 'victimhood' and calls for outlandish sanctions like replays because it was so 'unprecedented', is that the debate has highlighted numerous equally awful decisions affecting virtually every club! <doh>

    Dear Mousers, It was a ****ing awful decision, but that's all it was. There was no apparent corruption by officials. It was an error. Plain and simple. Live with it. Cheery bye! :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  20. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    Football has always included luck, bad luck, poor decisions and players getting away with stuff, both deliberate and accidental. Many decisions are subjective, almost every foul for example. That's why for most of football history it was just accepted that the referee's decision was final and it was frowned upon to question it. Then TV realised that like fans arguing in the pub after the game this part of the game was great television. Journalists always look for the 'story' the 'truth' comes second.
    TV opened the Pandora's Box and revelled in the content.
    Most football fans just move on because it's all part of the game. Yes we are all beside ourselves with anger when a really bad decision takes place and it doesn't get much worse as a Spurs fan than a ball travelling over a metre across the goal line to be disallowed as not a goal at Manchester United, or in arguably the biggest game in Spurs modern history to be ruined in the very first minutes by a penalty being given to LIVERPOOL for the ball hitting the shoulder of Sissoko from close range.
    We suffered and moved on and Liverpool, as unaccustomed as they may be to decisions not going their way. need to do the same, as I suspect most of their fans will or have.
     
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