as i said above, its is the var moron who calls it possible offside first. no onfield official actually called this offside. the var moron decided in his own head this was a possible offside. you then have 4 separate feeds from 4 onfield officials talking and not one of them confirmed and onfield decision one says possible offside which could be said at every good goal or bad. it's then clear their only real communication to not restart a game is to say delay. this culminates in "Check complete, check complete. That’s fine, perfect" this is var confirming to any ref their onfield decision is correct, this is not relaying a result of a finding at all. it's really just telling the ref whatever he thought must be right. the ref then kicks off and congratulates all on being fantastic blokes for getting a quick call. the Assistant is very political then. he doesn't shout this is wrong, he asks are you happy. the var guy hasn't a clue what on earth he is on about. when they finally cotton on and curse there's a fatalistic I can do nothing. it is a process set up for failure being rushed through to avoid critique of taking too long. its probably a shock its taken them this long to make such a **** up. the best thing they can do is change the protocol to improve clarity and recommend the Premier league adopt the semi automatic system. I'd go so far as to say they ought to make an amazon documentary following the lives of var and generate some sympathy for themselves.
Not many have said it is a conspiracy, just that that is how it feels. Most on here have clearly said they don't believe it to be a conspiracy and that is not just about Liverpool either
I'd not bother. his club didn't have the balls to speak up so thst on them. he's now whinging cos we had the balls to speak up and maybe improve things for his club
1. Sissoko penalty...my mistake re the knee...for obvious reason I ain't watched that since it happened...but that rule was changed because it was such a **** decision...if it happened now it would not be a penalty. But in retro spect that wasn't a factual decision ... it opinion so shouldn't have included it. 2. I think they should be open about how and why they ****ed up ... having heard the tape it confirms my view that the standards of refereeing in England is farcical to the point of absurdity. 3. Sorry if I came across as a wum on your board. I have banter on the Premier league board cos that's what it's for...I regularly take the piss outta spurs there but always try to be respectful on other teams boards. 4. IMHO I expect things to stay bad or get worse with refereeing cos : A) new refs won't come through cos they drop away cos of the abuse they get at grass roots level B) rules are badly written and too open to interpretation C) they seem to keep the same refs for years so they get set in their ways and new refs are made to fit around them. For example the last head of referees was kieth Hackett iirc...he refereed the 1981 cup final ffs...that in footballing terms makes him a dinosaur. Football is unrecognisable compared to now. The current one gave up refereeing a decade ago...what was relevant then is not relevant now. 5. I'll stop passing you off now.
flagging is not talking on the microphones. it you want to be totally clear you state for the record that "onfield decision is offside" then the requirement from var is to state that back with the result of their analysis and their recommendation which in this case is overturn and award a goal. eg. " onfield decision was offside. check complete, player played onside by player number x. please overturn and award goal" takes less than 5 seconds to follow that and get it right. by rights you'd wire the flag sensor that beeps in the refs ear to var and they'd have a big red light on as well.
He speaks right at the start; after the ball goes on the net he calls for it to be brought back for offside' (prior to it going to var)
Your comment I originally quoted mate... "no onfield official actually called this offside." ... he flagged and made comment. I made no reference to how good it poor that input may have been #apologyaccepted But yeah, it was ****
I think he's being called back to review the offside decision. Rumours swirling around last night that he was on the bog throwing up and rushed back in, hence he didn't know what he was reviewing.
Such a simple solution to this though. Every goal/red card or what ever that is going to var. Referee like they do in rugby or cricket says - I’m awarding a goal - tell me if any reason I shouldn’t. Or I’m awarding offside, tell me if that’s incorrect. var goes and does there thing. And replies Weve checked your decision of offside, we can confirm he’s offside. No goal or we’ve checked your decision of offside, we can confirm he’s onside. Change your decision and award a goal. After var have confirmed that referee will say ‘to confirm, I’m awarding a goal / I’m awarding a free kick for offside’ Var - correct Job done. Takes extra 5 seconds each side of the process and no confusion can take place.
