https://x.com/astridwett/status/1703425547722703157?s=46&t=pGpPCdUch2xbbgxJ_fKyOw This is what you get when women are allowed at football
The thing about sex predators is that they choose the weakest and lowest in position as their prey. Like children still at school. Like newby runners on set. Like young, star struck women from the audience. They don't generally go for others of a similar or higher status. So this narrative from Pressdee is meaningless imo
Except the american girl going to the Rape Crisis centre in USA and report, photo and DNA samples being taken And the records of Alice being picked up by BBC car and the phone records And the phone records of Brand apologising in the last case and the evidence of the screams coming from the flat witnessed by Brands team who were outside Oh and the fact that Alice complaining to his agency and being "threatened" by his lawyers, and the agency now saying they had been duped. There is quite a lot of evidence of coercive behaviour.... and at least 2 counts of actual rape
Really Stainsey, really. I think I need an apology ...now. What you get in many cases, myself included, is a lifelong fan who has taken the rough with the smooth, and supports her team regardless girl, woman and crone for 60 years
As I said..can any of this be proven. Whether you or I believe it happened or not, there doesn’t seem much that can be proven in a court of law. Of course I’m not a lawyer
But is football really a place for ladies ? Should they not be at home waiting for their menfolk with a warming glass of scotch and a hot dinner
A gentleman would not leave his ladies side to go to football, Stainsey. A gentleman would spend his time in awe of his "queen" pampering to her every wim....bringing her chocolates and puppy dogs to stroke. But you are obviously not a gentleman...and I am not a lady. So I will continue to go to see the Rs and support my team in an calm and well mannered way.....and you can wait in failed expectation for your cheap scotch and lukewarm dinner
Took hubby to QPR 2 v 2 Liverpool in 1973. He saw Toshack and Keegan, Bowles, Venables, Gerry Frances, Frank McLintock. Never asked to go again either. Suits me
This is what you get when you "allow" women at football matches https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66842202
Brand’s lawyers have dumped him as of last week, saying that he lied to them in 2020 when the woman who was 16 at the time of the alleged activities alerted Brand’s representatives. I agree that trial by media is unfair and sordid. The police are now investigating, apparently. Would be good if the media shut up and let them get on with it.
I agree that trial by media is unfair....but only the media (Times, S Times and Dispatches) took the time to research and establish the facts that they could and bring it in to the public sight. I saw the interview with the journalist who did most of the work , she has been working on it for over 6 years Without the media, he would still be out there. That is true of several other cases too... Williams-Thomas was the leading investigator on the ITV Exposure documentary, The Other Side of Jimmy Savile. I believe the BBC broke the magdalene Launderies stories And of course the Times broke the Thalidomide story I agree ....now the media have brought the case to the front, and so helped other women come forward and if there is a criminal case to answer (as todays news implies there is in this country, half the initial cases were carried out in USA) they should back away
If he's arrested, the case becomes sub judice and they'll have to shut up. Until then, there's a lot of public interest in this, so the media will feed it.
So from your post you really don’t believe in the concept of “innocent until proven guilty” ? And before the usual suspects come in, I don’t know either way, just like I never knew if Benjamin Mendy was guilty….or Kevin Spacey….or Mo Rammy.
I find it a bit odd that a girl who has been raped would see the media as her first port of call rather than the police.
Surely the Times, Sunday Times and Channel 4 should have advised these women to go to the police much earlier? They have just let Brand potentially continue his alleged behaviour for another six years. Thalidomide and the Magdalene laundries were great journalism a long time ago. They were also major conspiracies involving huge institutions. This is a ‘my word against theirs’ accusation of sexual abuse. Hugely important but in terms of journalistic skill and endeavour it’s hardly Watergate. My personal opinion of Brand is probably very similar to yours, but so far this ‘expose’ has been more about garnering clicks and views than stopping wrong. In my opinion.
