Match Day Thread Hull City v Coventry

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I don't really believe they're incompetent. They're trained and prepared as well as they possibly can be. I think it's a hard job at the best of times with the way the game is, but then when you've got directives to clamp down on this and that and then it's quietly reversed a few weeks into the season it's just a complete mess. What chance have they got?
The thing that frustrates me is that they clearly don’t communicate efficiently with their colleagues/ linesmen/ assistant refs. It is a difficult job, especially now their better colleagues have VAR.
At Norwich, had the ref and assistant had a meaningful chat when 35,000 fans were already celebrating a win, they could only have concluded there were numerous reasons to disallow the goal, and cost us a point.
When it all kicked off tonight, why did the ref clearly not want to listen to the assistant ref/linesman who was trying to tell him what he’d seen, despite the ref having his back to the play.
Anyone can make mistakes, so use your team.
 
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I got up at 1.30 am to watch the game, I was in Saigon for the weekend so in a hotel. Only to find out the hotel was changing the system that night, so no internet until the morning, so only found out the result after breakfast. Sounds like an okay game which we could have won, will watch the full game once it is up and see for myself. Nevertheless, a point against Coventry is not a bad point, I would say.
 
3 minutes was ridiculous but to be fair, Leicester had the exact same complaint a fortnight ago. Seems the refs have dialled back on the crackdown on time-wasting, which seems incredibly weak. Surely not bothering at all would've been better than cracking down on it for 3 weeks and then giving up.

In fact, there were a few similarities to the Leicester game. Cov were very organised as an away side and played good, confident stuff at times. We couldn't press their keeper because he was happy to pass round us when we did, similar to what we do. Difference of course is we got our equaliser which Leicester couldn't against us.

The story of the game turned on us giving away a **** corner and then allowing them to score a **** goal from it. We've generally defended well from corners under Rosenior, but we also never score from them and it's frustrating to see other sides able to get ahead against us as cheaply as that when no team ever seems to allow Greaves or Jones a free header like that. Must've been about 8 corners to 1 tonight and they score from theirs with a free header. Crazy.

Like Syd said, there's always a result-based bias in people's perception of a performance. On the whole I thought we were excellent, really outplayed a good side who themselves looked good on the night. But that crucial opener, coupled with us being wasteful as ever in attack, cost us the win our build up play deserved. On the wastefulness, there's not many excuses now, we've got a seriously high quality front line on the pitch and you have to hope that in time the likes of Twine will start hitting the target instead of blazing it over repeatedly. In a way it felt like we missed Tufan to finish something off tonight, but then I'm conscious that he was as wasteful as anyone at times last season. Whoever is playing, we need them to start reliably making the final pass or the finish, it's been a problem for way too long.

And yes, they were a dirty side, and very clever with it. Not too many really bad fouls, but certainly enough little fouls to seriously disrupt our play. I suspect the ref would have wanted to book someone earlier to get on top of it but there wasn't really an obvious candidate. Can you book a player for team-wide persistent fouling? I imagine not.

I made comparisons with the Leicester game too (in my head).

As for the ref - his biggest mistake for me, was not booking that player who he had called over to have a word. He lost it from then onwards.

Coventry were excellent at tactical fouling though.

Let’s hope we get a firm ref against Dirty Leeds.
 
I was hoping to find out from this board what actually happened with the flare up, as there was too much going on for me to take in.

It wasn't shown on TV. The production was a shambles.

On several occasions the commentary was describing action (eg. Us playing recklessly out from the back), whilst the picture showed a replay or a filler shot of part of the crowd or one of the benches.

The goal in the Leicester game was completed missed because of this poor production.

Needs a massive improvement.
 
The thing that frustrates me is that they clearly don’t communicate efficiently with their colleagues/ linesmen/ assistant refs. It is a difficult job, especially now their better colleagues have VAR.
At Norwich, had the ref and assistant had a meaningful chat when 35,000 fans were already celebrating a win, they could only have concluded there were numerous reasons to disallow the goal, and cost us a point.
When it all kicked off tonight, why did the ref clearly not want to listen to the assistant ref/linesman who was trying to tell him what he’d seen, despite the ref having his back to the play.
Anyone can make mistakes, so use your team.
He was talking to the linesman throughout, but via their headset.

I agree that Wright looked poor for them, and at times disinterested - just like when I’ve seen him on TV playing for USA. Another bullet dodged.
 
"We ran out of steam because we kept giving them the ball back, and they moved it better than us in the second half. We did really, really well in the first half.

That quote from Robins there, sums up one of the main reasons we 'fanny about' with the ball so much, we're finishing games so strongly and able to exert pressure on teams cos they're knackered from chasing us round the pitch.

I pointed out to my mate at the game that several of their players went down in the second half with cramp yet none of ours did. At the time I put it down to the fact that they'd put in 100% effort and we'd barely got out of 2nd gear, but maybe it was more down to the 'Rosenior ball' style as you say.
 
A few thoughts...

Lokilo for Twine in the next game. I like his commitment and think he has some quality. It would also be great to see two proper wingers on the pitch.

Delap needs to play central, it was glaring how much he was missed in the first half.

Rosenior showed his nous again tonight. The way we managed to peg them back with the numerous tactical tweaks was massively impressive.
 
The initial contact when Delap broke through their defence was last man too, they tried to take him out with a nudge but it was too weak and failed, so then hacked him down but other defenders had got further back as Delap’s stride got broken by the first contact.

That would have been a red I’m sure with VAR?
 
Cov fans said we had no answer to ‘Twist and Shout’ do we need a high temp bouncy song - didn’t we do Quo ‘ rocking all over the world ‘ I’m not suggesting it but our songs sound like dirges . The young uns don’t listen to anything memorable and bouncy do they ?
just asking - oh no! I’ve sobered up too!
 
Thought we played some great football at times.
Seri, Philogene and Delap were class. Don't get why Seri was taken off so early (I know he's been on international duty but he's hardly played); he was running the show for us. We didn't get the ball to Delap enough (familiar story).
I wouldn't say Coverntry were particularly dirty. They were strong and well organised, and just did what most teams do nowadays. The problem for the ref first half was that it wasn't the same player making fouls repeatedly, so not so easy to book someone as the tally increases.
Frustrating as we should have won it. We were the better side, especially as the game wore on. But sort of get where Steverico seems to be coming from, we somehow need to be more positive, more '**** you', as well as much more clinical. Hopefully that comes in time now Rosenior has his players, but, based on evidence to date, I'm not sure attacking play is his forte. TWT.
All good if we beat Leeds next week.
 
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21 fouls and the ref didn't book any of them til the 80th minute...all for letting the game flow but that was ridiculous in the first half when twine got taken out about 4 times in 5 mins and they all just got a warning.

Particularly the one who deliberately stood on Twine's calf as he stood up, should have been a red but didn't even get a yellow.
 
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Odd game. I also think we'd have been better with delap central, Connolly on left and Philogene on the right.. maybe Twine central or on the bench... he didn't have a great game.
 
Particularly the one who deliberately stood on Twine's calf as he stood up, should have been a red but didn't even get a yellow.

Twine really doesn't help though with his over the top dramatic theatrical reactions and his diving, it's horrible to see from any player let alone your own
 
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