Went to watch hull a few times on chants Ave and really enjoyed it As you say it’s in the bar at half time and afterwards and a real community feel to it
Leicester, Bristol, Bath and Gloucester all have higher averages than Leeds the top RL club. How many do they average in London for their rugby league teams? It is a fact that both codes of rugby are in a state of decline.
I go to watch grandson playing union. Some impressive club houses. The one at Scarborough is the largest clubhouse of an amateur team of any sport, it is larger than most professional outfits, on a 32 acre site with 5 full sized pitches, a training pitch and 6 mini pitches. I wouldn’t mind City having a site like that A balcony running the length of the pitch where you can watch the game from 2 bars both serving food, a further restaurant, function rooms and a large club shop.
Brid rugby and Brid Town club houses share the same car park. The rugby one has more in it except on match days when town have more spectators.The union club is always busy for both union and football England internationals. They also show RL internationals.
Driff RUFC always had a decent set up and a lot of dedicated ex players ensured that the Club grew through time.Lads I went to School with and the odd family member(one in particular is 'odd') are still involved at the core.
Anti Hull? Where? Which part of Hull do you choose to live in you soft sod? Gets upset if anybody says anything to him accusing people of throwing insults about but throws insults about at others, referred to another poster as scum. I don’t know how such a thin skin constrains all that mass. Still trying to get people banned as well as posts removed as you have done for years?
Yes, still got a good clubhouse and run a few teams. Though the bloke running the one of my grandson’s age there is a bit of an eejit.
I have no interest in either form of Rugby. The majority of the conversation was started on the England vs Ukraine match thread and moved much later on, which is why people have commented on it.
Boo hoo Compo blubbing BS. Pity him. Must have been caught sniffing Noras wrinkly stockings off the line again. Pity him some more.
Writes mister blubber. Another example of being teetotal makes people weird. Other well known teetotallers - Hitler, Himmler, Donald Trump, Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn…Are you goubg to blubber like the last time I posted that list and wail about calling you a Nazi. Benn and Corbyn would have been surprised at that accusation.
In smaller places like where I live getting there on your own is not a problem for kids old enough to walk to school on their own. It will be more of a problem in big cities and isolated villages. I would doubt most adults are working longer hours than in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. The single parent thing is sad and reflects badly on fathers who have no involvement with their kids. Yet in poverty struck countries you can see bunches of kids playing games on makeshift pitches. Football in most cases but cricket in India, Pakistan etc. A lot of the Brazilian and Argentinian players, and even little Uruguay which always performs well despite a smaller population than Wales have players who started out playing on the streets in slum areas.
Then why did you compare Leicester's attendance to the sum total attendance of the 2 Hull code-lite teams? Not thinking outside the box?
No. I stated Leicester have the largest attendance of any rugby team of either code. You asked do they have a rugby league team which was irrelevant. Unless you think if Leicester had a rugby league team it would decrease Leicester Tigers attendances considerably?
Ye, true at the moment. But it's opposite in France, who I'm guessing are the template for English rugby future. You and DBT are totally right about the clubhouses - there's many great ones that are community focused all over UK. However, there is a generational sea change in drinking habits so rugby needs to plan for this as it's too late once it's happened. In France, clubs have invested in decent gyms instead of subsidised alcohol, giving free membership to youths, especially from the inner cities, to encourage attendance and this has contributed to raised player numbers. The well run clubhouses of places like Bridlington aren't attracting youth players from high density population areas (cities!). That's not to say they are in the wrong or should change, just that a variety of resources should exist. Reduced sports funding, facilities and time offered to school children, by successive uk governments, has pushed talented youth participants into the welcoming arms of the professional set ups of club football, away from more niche sport activities.
The set up in France is far superior for football as well. When my sons were involved in junior football the set ups in France, Holland and Germany were an eye opener. I remember an article by David Conn innthe Guardian a few years ago about coaches. There were 2,700 in the whole of the UK at one level while 2,500 at the level were employed in schools in Spain which has a lower population. You could imagine the uproar from various quarters in this country, waste of school resources, my kids don’t like kicking a ball about so why should we have them etc, etc…He anticipated if we continued to increase the number of coaches with the necessary qualifications at the current rate ans Spain stood still we would catch up in just over 130 years.
Parents now often have a commute to include on top of working hours, very few can afford to be a housewife/husband - so if you include these hours 'lost' to work and many more now working weekends and evenings, I would guess a family is working more hours than in the 1950s-1970s. It all pulls parents/adults away from volunteering time. There's also the economic issue - it's financially expensive driving youth players around once they're at a county standard, plus the diet and training needs. The single parent issue usually isn't a case of 'bad' parenting or blaming either parent, but if you're a single father/mother to two or more children, it's difficult time wise and financially to give up evenings or weekends to train one child, if there's another child needing looking after. We're all time short. I understand what you write about poorer countries playing football and cricket on dusty pitches, but rugby is different.. it's more physical, needs training and care - it's labour intensive. It's needed the investment to be better targeted.
You need only look at the bankrupt Birmingham Councils taxi bill(£17 million) for ferrying children around in private cars(to and from School) to realise there is a fundamental issue with society today. Whatever happened to walking a distance to School in all weathers? The Scottish Government will also suffer the consequences of issuing free bus passes to 5-22 year olds, when they get the bill for kids hopping on a bus for a 400 yard journey,instead of walking...
Indeed. Or if the 2 Hull R.L. clubs merged would their combined support surpass that of L.T. should the merger produce a more successful club.
