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Grand Prix thread DUTCH GRAND PRIX 2023

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by ched999uk, Aug 24, 2023.

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Who will finish first?

Poll closed Aug 26, 2023.
  1. Max Verstappen

    57.1%
  2. Sergio Perez

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  3. Charles Leclerc

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  4. Lewis Hamilton

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  5. Fernando Alonso

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  6. Lando Norris

    14.3%
  7. George Russell

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  8. Oscar Piastri

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  9. Daniel Ricciardo

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  10. Any Other

    14.3%
  1. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    I think they only have to have 2 of the 4 weeks off. Plus if you have designed parts then maybe a 3rd party can manufacture them for you during the 2 week shutdown?
     
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  2. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    Interesting interview with Albon on C4. He was suggesting that they tried a certain wind direction on their sim before they came here and it was good for them and they had the same wind direction in track! He also said that they went for a slightly dragger car so they are not fastest on the straights for once.
    Looks like James V is having a good impact on them.
    Wish them best of luck for the race.
     
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  3. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    He makes mistakes because he overdrives the Ferrari (because it's a bit ****). So he has two choices, slow down and make less mistakes, but be nowhere, or keep trying to push it to the limit and occasionally go over. Sainz makes a lot of "mistakes" in that car too, but he's not quite as quick as Leclerc.

    Max doesn't make mistakes largely because he doesn't ever need to maximise the potential of the car. He can drive it at 80% of its potential and still canter to a win. Leclerc is always (perhaps wrongly) driving the Ferrari at 100% or slightly beyond, to give himself a chance.

    He's an incredibly quick driver, but I fear Ferrari might have broken him. Stick him in a Red Bull and you wouldn't see anything like the amount of mistakes though.
     
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    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    This is going to be tricky in the pits
     
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  5. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    fancy missing the start of this, DOH!
     
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    Perez flying, Hamilton lol.
     
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    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Max blatantly forcing Gasly off there, no doubt the stewards in Holland will see nothing wrong.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    it was very blatant.

    he's pushed him.right off a cambered corner and towards a wall.

    so disappointed in perez going so slow after being gifted this race potentially.

    verstappen will sail by in 5 laps here.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    the main thing I am surprised by is nobody has beached it.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    turn this off.

    red bull absolutely ****bags just don't even bother making a race. verstappen just promoted in pit stop.
     
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  11. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Told Perez to save the inters......
     
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  12. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    I don't like it but Red Bull want records and giving max the front spot helps!
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    perez is a ****ing idiot.

    not paying attention to the team just not bothering to tell him anything.

    did he not get any info that sorts were going on for others. did he not see verstappen no longer behind him.

    he should basically ram verstappen off track at some point just to have them know he won't accept it.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    at least have to pass on track.

    fans jipped as per.
     
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  15. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    It was obvious after the way Horner reacted to Perez winning in Baku.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    safety car.

    now perez show any sort of balls.

    ran verstappen on the restart.
     
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  17. Julius Caesar

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    Perez was miles off the pace anyway, but it's still sad to see Red Bull feel the need to fiddle with the strategies like that.

    Doing it when you've already won both championships just feels mean spirited
     
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  18. ched999uk

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    True but there is the record for number of consecutive wins within Max's grasp. We all know Perez is on thin ice for next year so he can only really do what he's told or he has no drive.
     
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    Secret Yuki Tsunoda fan? Perez is far too replaceable to get forceful about anything.

    Sure, but it's already Red Bull's record with Seb anyway and it's more meaningful for Max get the record without underhanded tricks. He seemed to have the pace to pass Perez
     
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  20. Mark Blow

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    Regardless of the chaos due to the rain, Zandvoort is still another crap track
     
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