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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 15th August)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Aug 15, 2023.

  1. oldschool

    oldschool Well-Known Member

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    Just a thought, has any relegated prem club been through the mass exodus that is currently happening at elland rd due to the clauses written into them... Leicester and saints seem to have suffered some player loss but they have received hard cash for assets due to said relegation clauses not inserted into theirs ..... now we must do a Burnley and wisely use the loan market in the remaining time of the window, it's bleak as it stands but some good talent is out there on prem books we must try our utmost to persuade them to spend a season in't Leeds <cheers>
     
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  2. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    49ers enterprises is an investment company, no different to Goldman Sachs ... they don't only invest in sports clubs, but have investments in software and infrastructure companies as well for a clue

    The investors invest based on what they've been sold, and they can either invest in the entire fund or in specific investments, like Leeds

    As investors they won't be involved in decisions regarding transfers as they won't be asked to fund the transfers due to the money already being in the fund ... they may be asked to consider investing more to help guarantee their investment will succeed, but that still won't allow them decision-making powers

    The fund managers (Marathe and Martins) control the money and decide where to invest and how much ... they will run Leeds United's finances and sign off funding of transfers and contracts ... they will also make all decisions on sales and loans, investors won't

    The problem any fund faces is that if the investment starts to lose its sparkle, investors may start to consider withdrawing their money by selling their shares in the fund ... in the case of investment in Leeds, any selling of shares will be caveated by only being able to sell back to 49ers and not on the open market, like you would be able to do with Tesco shares for example ... this is to stop somebody buying up all the smaller shares in Leeds to try and force a potential takeover

    Paraag is the king pin at Leeds, he will be making all the calls with his business partners and his management team ... investors are along for the ride and they have to trust the fund manager's judgement, and if they don't like it they can take their money out which isn't helpful for the fund ... expect there to be a limit on how long the shares in Leeds need to be held before they can withdraw, and expect it to be 1 to 3 years before an investor in Leeds can sell their shares back to 49ers at the then market value

    So if you're not happy with transfers and money being spent, Paraag's your man
     
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  3. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    The top six prem clubs are where we should be loaning from
     
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  4. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Got most of that already but thanks for the reply. Take for example though sports and Thomas the golfers who are minority investors, Ricky Fowler pulled out. When interviewed these guys really hadn’t a clue and spoke about how cool it’d be to eventually qualify for the champions league and attend games at Elland road blah blah. American bull and clearly a couple of seasons of failure or maybe less and these guys are likely to pull their cash. Are the major investors any different you’d wonder
     
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  5. Whitejock

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    True story. 2 transfers arranged by the 49ers. A linebacker & a young quarterback. Sadly, they still don't understand ..... <whistle>
     
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  6. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    ... or even angrier! :D
     
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  7. Whitejock

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    I honestly believe the wee lad doesn't know whether he's coming or going. He recently revealed that he feels he'd be better as an AM, & I agree, or as a short-arse to a big man up front, perhaps. But after everyone telling him for years that he was a superb striker, the compliments have turned to shirrikins. I think he's having a crisis of confidence, myself - & Farke isn't helping by playing him up front on his own whilst he's going through it, further eroding his confidence.

    You'd think we'd have learned with Jay-Roy Grot. :(
     
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  8. oldschool

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    I am GROOT......well he was as good as a lump of wood ;)
     
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  9. leeds down south

    leeds down south Well-Known Member

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    <ok> Got a good one from Brighton last time in the Championship, makes a lot of sense.
     
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  10. Jammy 07

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    Going to ER now is more like going to a show at the theatre, it's an event and a performance, not quite a pantomime yet but definitely getting that way. We watch, we laugh, we grimace and then sometimes we booooo.

    Unless of course we win, then we applaud and demand an encore the following week <ok>
     
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  11. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    EXACTLY!!
     
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  12. wakeybreakyheart

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    Anybody feeling a bit better today about the clusterfuck that is Leeds Utd. We had Phil Hay explains why Orta did it as if it was a good idea and surprised when all the players opted to not have a wage cut and leave instead. So no I don’t feel better and won’t until I see some good players backfilling some of our lost players
     
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  16. Doc

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    Amazing! So we sell Rodrigo for £5m because of a relegation clause yet Mitrovic is sold to the Arabs for £55m and guess what both players in the last year of their contracts. Orta and Co are a fkg disgrace
     
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  17. Aski

    Aski Well-Known Member

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    Is one of them The Fridge ? ;)

    Apparently he was able to play full back, as well as his natural position, so I'm sure he could fill in at left back. :)
     
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  18. Aski

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    "Oh no it isn't" ;)
     
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    Go on then.

    " Oh yes it is"
     
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  20. wakeybreakyheart

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    Perry?
     
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