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are we at last in the presence of real greatness with vettel ?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by martial artist, Nov 12, 2011.

  1. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    So Nico Rosberg has re-written many records....?
    You profile picture is disgusting, no offence personally though.
     
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  2. cosicave

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    Yes. Hence my use of the word 'historical'.



    Precisely!
     
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  3. Masanari

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    Youngest driver to set a fastest lap, and also most points without a win.

    I'll have you know the blobfish is a beautiful and graceful creature.
     
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  4. EternalMSC

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    It is vile...
    I said "many" - 2 records that are not very significant (the latter one more so).... I don't think that works.
     
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  5. Masanari

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    He also scored the first ever points for Mercedes GP.
     
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  6. cosicave

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    And there we have it. You've nut-shelled it EMSC!

    The whole point about these discussions is that we may have differing definitions in the first place, exacerbated by different interpretations of what then qualifies within our own definition!
     
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  7. Nazara

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    Sato = Legend <ok>
     
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  8. true_blue

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    This is easy to answer. Can Vettel overtake when he need to? No! Hamilton is the best overtaker on the grid, followed by Alonso. Vettel is an average driver in a fantastic car. Let's wait and see what he does when the red bull isn't the quickest car.
     
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  9. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Not watched much F1 this season then have you WuM. Go back to your EDL meetings.
     
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  10. true_blue

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    I've watched every race miggins. And how do you link my post to me being a member of the EDL? I am a patriot, unlike you. You should be ashamed.
    Vettel isn't evil like Schumacher but he is very very annoying and a just-above-mediocre driver.
     
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  11. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I remember you from 606, there's a difference between being a 'patriot' and being a xenophobic nationalist. And on a side note, I've always found patriotism rather foolish, why should I favour someone because of the geography of their birth?
     
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  12. true_blue

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    Miggins, patriotism is what makes a man a man. Supporting your own is akin to belonging to a clan or tribe, which is man's most basic natural instinct.
     
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  13. EternalMSC

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    Being an open minded diplomatic person is what makes a man, blue.
     
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  14. Bergkamp a Dutch master

    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

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    Eternal, I really hope the MSC part of your name doesn't stand for Michael Schmucher. One the most wicked cheats in sporting history.
     
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  16. SgtBhaji

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    Deja vu?
     
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  17. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    lets not even go there
     
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  18. Delete Me

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    Man's most basic instint is survival, not patrionism or joining a clan. You want to survive so you become who you are today because that's the society you were sadly bought up in, all so you would be accepted and not rejected.

    It's called social construction...

    And there are plenty of facts showing people rejecting it, so it chucks it back in it's face of you saying it's natural.

    Me and Manny for example refuse to support a British driver just because our groups favour the media.

    Patrionism to me just points out that you never knew much of the sport/life and you took the easy option to feel part of it.
     
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  19. Aloonatron

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    For what it's worth, I think that we are in the presence of a lot of potentially great drivers at the moment, who enjoy watching race against a very competitive crop of drivers.

    Seb is arguably one of them, but I'd prefer to wait until his career is at an end before making and grand pronouncements.

    Looking good so far :eek:)
     
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  20. EternalMSC

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    That is what I call a comment.

    Ok true, I accept your view on Michael Schumacher is built up of 3 incidents in his 20 year career as well as some Youtube videos.
     
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