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Why Are We Always Broke and Poor?

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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I have got a final salary pension and am contributing to a money purchase one. In the last few years I'm barely seeing what goes into it every month let alone making anything.
    I can't get my state pension for another 3.75 years at 66.5 years
     
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    really good post.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    And you think the country was in a good shape pre covid, the public sector was on its knees. Ten years of austerity saw to that.
     
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    Only the beginning today in London-the flames are lit-

     
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  5. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    When the ‘way forward’ is a caution for a first offence, assuming the Police turn up and aren’t chasing a pensioner for a mean tweet, I think things are going to get a whole lot worse
    There is little or no respect, no manners and Ambulance and fireman are regularly physically attacked while trying to do their job it’s about time the public demanded tougher laws not weaker ones
     
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  6. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    no I dont think the country was in good shape but it was in the best shape it could be to get us outb of the extremely deep the labour government left the tories with .. and for arguments sake Auserity was not 10 years closer to 8!
     
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    I was thinking that!! We all know what it should be though!!
     
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  11. AshtonRed

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    Actually it’s f - all which doesn’t make sense in the context of the article, it should have read foxtrot Oscar.
    Of course the migrants shouldn’t get to say they want to be housed in towns etc, but the article is completely missing the point, which is these migrants shouldn’t have to be held anywhere for years on end at a ridiculous cost per day, they should be processed promptly, allowing the legitimate ones to assimilate into society, work and oay their taxes etc, the ones that fail can indeed foxtrot Oscar.
     
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    Tory austerity 'has cost UK half a trillion pounds of public spending since 2010' A decade of austerity by the Conservative-led governments after 2010 resulted in more than half a trillion pounds of lost public spending and a weaker economy,

    Even on its own terms, austerity didn't succeed. Public spending was brought down, but not by as much as expected. Osborne's goal of achieving a fiscal surplus was never achieved. The paper Osborne had cited in his call for cuts to public spending was later found to contain critical errors.
     
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  13. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Let’s hope the tide turns along with the boats

    The judges, lawyers, charities, newspapers and the woke lefty media figures like Gary Lineker and Carol Vorderman who will never have to live next to these immigrant communities or have to deal with the undoubted social and further economic problems they will bring

    Are the British people and leaders ever going to wake up ?

    Starmer thinks that when he comes to power that he can just ask Macron nicely to stop the boats.

    Even if he does ask Macron nicely, nothing is going to happen, as immigration policy within the EU is now controlled by Brussels who don’t want to know.

    We need to show intent and turn the boats around right now

    If we start doing it, the issue will cease to exist inside a week and we can start to address the current issues left behind like the 50,000 people taking up our hotel spaces.

    Screw what the UN and the world media think of us, why should we care ?

    We are an independent nation and capable of making our own informed decisions and it’s about time we did so.

    Bear in mind that for every single illegal that’s allowed to stay there will be another 4 or more people that will then be allowed to come here in association with them putting loads more pressure on every aspect of British life and our services

    And we are hamstrung by the few applicants that aren’t allowed to stay and fail the application process as the lawyers will then step in and do all they can to stop them being deported even if they fail the process.

    And round and round we go again. We are getting nowhere fast and the country is filling up and it’s costing us billions at every turn and it’s wasting huge amounts of time.

    We need to ban all forms of immigration for at least the next 10 years from right now, and start sending back all of the supposed gay and Christian converted Muslim illegals that have already invaded us as well. It’s a total scam, and they’re not either of those things, they are coached what to say.

    We can then sort out the backlog and try to adjust the issues with local services. Allowing another 70,000 to cross the channel this year, which in real terms, with foreign family members joining them here at some point, that figure could be around 300,000 not 70,000, it’s sheer madness.

    It simply has to be stopped right now aside from those we choose to allow in to work in key industries

    We are sleepwalking into more major economic and social problems if we don’t deal with it properly and we’re the ones that will suffer.

    We’re way too attractive as an easy destination, who will bend over backwards for anyone arriving on our shores, and this is to the total detriment to people who live here and pay their way.

    We need to be a tough and very unattractive destination
     
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    PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS COMMENT... thats £500bn [ in the used sense of just adding 000's to a figure instead of its real pre modern context ... 500,000,000,000 now ]
    You dont understand Austerity and its reasoning ............
    clue ......
    DEBT ===== ( [in 1997 before oil boom ] it was £352bn in 2010 it was £902bn so labour increased debt by £550bn) ==== so Tory party expected to ignore that and then spend £500bn on public services?
    They could have course used the gold reserves ......... oh ... Labour sold them during the oil boom,,,ah ha they could have used the oil boom money to ... hang on that was gone! was it on public services that needed keeping or or modernizing ............. NO that was being left to the next government. OH ho .. they have their hands tied got left with a debt of £500++bn ! That makes sense start off with a massive debt and build on it ..........:emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl: laughable to say the least

    SO eagerly awaiting your response...................
     
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  15. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    FFS - And we wonder why the country is in the mess it's in !

    More woke and racist BS being rammed down the throats of already woke and lazy civil servants who'll probably hang on his every word.

    Civil servants are set to be addressed by a pro-migration academic who has described Suella Braverman’s views on immigration as “odious”.

    Author and historian Kenan Malik has been invited by the Open Innovation Team, a group of policy researchers based within the Department for Education, to give a lecture advertised for officials as being on “race, culture, whiteness and privilege” to be held online on September 12, during working hours.

    The event, at which Mr Malik is the only speaker, is open to civil servants across Whitehall and is entitled “Race, from White Supremacy to Identity Politics”.

    The academic has criticised former home secretary Dame Priti Patel and Mrs Braverman, the Home Secretary, for their migration views.

    He said on Twitter last October: “Braverman, Patel, etc do not have odious views simply on immigration. They have equally odious views on welfare, workers’ rights, etc.”

    “They are rightwing Tories and their views, like those of white rightwing Tories, on all these issues are shaped by their broader ideology.”

    In April last year, Mr Malik described the Government’s plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda in a piece for The Observer - where he has a weekly column - as an “obnoxious arrangement” that creates “a theatre of cruelty”, and in another article accused “mainstream conservatives” of using the language of “the far-Right”.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    It’s good for them to hear from all sides of the political spectrum, nothing wrong with that. Have to say I agree about Suella and Priti, I don’t like their politics one bit.
     
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    This is probably one for another thread but in my employment I have had to sign a pledge included in anti racist training where I acknowledge my white privilege to become a white ally to be part of an anti racist organisation. The training is mandatory.

    My employer has a employee forum and employees were invited to offer their views on the "lets talk about racism" course. There were so many complaints about this course the organisation shut the forum down, and the CEO made a veiled threat to employees to watch what they said and think about if this is the right organisation to work for if you do not share our ideals.
     
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  18. Angelicnumber16

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    My company rolled out a similar thing and we had to endure (and I'm using the correct word there) the anti white, anti British, anti history crap being spouted and rammed down our throats, and we had to tick a box at the end of it to confirm we'd supposedly digested all the nonsense. It stopped short of asking us if we agreed with it luckily.

    Every person I spoke to about it afterwards objected to it, the way in which it was done, and the examples used, and when we were asked for anonymous online feedback I believe most people said it was appalling and racist.

    But this is how corporate life is these days.

    This sort of thing always calls itself all inclusive, diverse and harmonious when it's the complete and utter opposite.
    It encourages bad feeling and resentment where none existed beforehand. How is that ever helpful ?

    But we live in strange times and some people thrive on rubbish like this.

    I'm not one of them.

    It's a disease that has captured those at the very top of corporate life, those in public services, Governments and politicians, it includes the banks, and now the head of the FCA, who seems more keen on gender study and inclusion than actually doing his job and stopping people having their bank accounts closed for no reason.
     
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  19. AshtonRed

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    It’s a football forum, too much going on with Scott to be interested in trying to educate you, you’ve convinced yourself and won’t let fact’s interfere with your thinking, your like a gashead, there’s no convincing them they should follow City, no matter how many facts say we are better .
     
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  20. Reliant Robin TC2

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    Also the heads of most Police forces which is causing all sorts of ****e for the poor ****ers on the front line! :angry:
     
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