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  1. TopCat.

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    Starting to realise that........
     
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  2. Nads

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    I’ll take also running off to Europe to watch the lads like.
     
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    He was at the Preston game at the weekend wasnt he. I would be surprised if he isnt back there on loan this year personally. He did well there in their formation and I would imagine the relationship with Lowe is pretty good. Location handy as well.
     
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  4. Nads

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    Danny Rose came back here for games after his loan, didn’t mean ****.

    If it’s a permanent he’d surely come here over PNE
     
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    If it is a perm it would make more sense. I am assuming it is loan talk though. Havent Everton put some stupid value on him?
     
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  6. Nads

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    Just reading the bits of gossip and I’d seen ‘dee agreed’ unless I mixed up here.

    Not a clue what valuation would be.
     
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  7. Fly Me To The Moon

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    Sooner Sept 1st comes the better
     
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    Granted for now, Southampton were similar a few years ago. Also Leicester won the league, yes outliers do happen.

    Not sustainable though?
     
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  9. FellTop

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    If Everton want to sell him I doubt Preston have the budget. We would do I imagine, assuming it was around the same fee they wanted for Simms. Not sure I would pay that when you see the value we can get from Europe, but fair play if the club do it.
     
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  10. Sour Patch

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    Southampton were doing very well, qualified for europe aswell if im not mistaken, then changed ownership and the way they did things changed. At least come back with some valid points
     
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    Just some info for those mentioning Brighton as a club that have done well. They owe everything to their owner and lifelong fan Tony Bloom.

    He has ploughed over £400 million into the club, maybe half of that on infrastructure, bit certainly a huge sum of giving them the clout to move up to where they are now. Yes they now sell players for daft money, but without him they are dead in the water. Even their own fans admit if Bloom called his loans in they wouldn't exist.

    If we should be following any club, it is Brentford, they still owe their owner north of £100 million but most of that is on infrastructure and they where / are doing the buy cheap, sell high model much better than Brighton.
     
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    I do support the way we’re doing things but equally keeping players moving towards their peak and selling them as they peak is the way forward. Not sure he’s reached that yet. The positive is that we sign better players now so might sign three for the fee.
     
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  13. TopCat.

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    Everton spent just short of £700m in recent years
    Spurs just over £450m


    Neither team exactly tearing it up. There is no hard and fast rule to how football clubs should be run
     
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  14. Lozza80

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    Bishop on his way to us according to nixon
     
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    It is only " sustainable" when backed by the funds of a nation state.

    City are not a club in the real sense of the word at all. They are a projection of the identity of Abh Dhabi, wearing football shirts. A chimera. The same applies to that lot up there , PSG, and Utd when Qatar take them over.

    City would be a mid ranked Premier League without Arab money. If the Arabs left tomorrow - and never discount this, they have entirely selfish reasons for being there and if those reasons were to change radically in a hurry, they'd be off in a hurry - City would be the back to their " norm" in five to ten years, though a higher norm than they have often managed.
     
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    I agree with some of the sentiments. I grew up in an era when the prospect of some silverware was real for a lot of clubs, not just a few. The game has changed much for the worse in the lack of opportunity and it is getting worse year by year. I used to think we had a good chance in a league cup, and outside in the FA cup, but not now so much. There doesnt seem to be the same 'in a one off game' chance anymore. If you draw Man City or Arsenal etc your chances are much less than was once the case in my opinion. The romance of the cup now seems to extend to a run to a quarter final perhaps.

    As for our model I do think it is the right one. There is a glass ceiling we may not be able to smash through in the next few seasons, football probably needs a reset for that. If we can keep producing and developing young players, get promoted with flair football and follow a Brentford model that will give us a platform. Maybe then we follow more of a Villa model of this close season. They are signing some real talent and could well push for a cup final.

    I have adjusted my own views on what success looks like if you are outside of the inner circle of the so called big six. Major trophies are so very hard to come by, so I am going to enjoy the more modest successes. Lacks a certain romance though. It is 8 years since Leicester won the league and I would be surprised if we see anything of that sort in the next 8 years. Would love to be wrong.
     
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  17. TopCat.

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    Good post
     
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    Nixon saying Bishop is coming
     
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    @Jarca told us this would happen a while ago now. I remembered he had been at Mansfield a year or so back so asked a coach I know there. They said he was a very good keeper and great to have on board. This is the sort of second keeper I am pleased to see us sign.
     
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    Good stuff , sounds promising.

    Thought this deal would get done one man utd got Onana through the door. They were having to play Tom Heaton as their no1 in the friendlies.
     
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