I’m all for it, doesn’t seem to be a crock just not played and if Rosie wants him I’m in. Also Tufan was absolutely blasted by Fener and Watford fans so going to take the sporting talk with a pinch of …. Salt.
True but it still took months for Tufan to get properly fit. I’d just prefer a left-back who’s had 30-40 games last season and is ready to go now. We’ve been bit before by signing injury-prone players and players who were injured when we signed them. That Salah kid from Arsenal didn’t play a single minute for us.
People have to realise that we aren't going to be able to sign a finished product. Have to find diamonds in the rough with outcasts from previous teams and develop. Lets wait to judge anyone after they've pulled on the black and amber
Vinagre doesn’t look like he loves kebabs anywhere near as much as our kid Ozan, you definitely could be right though I’m just choosing to have a bit of optimism.
He certainly didn't miss all season through injury. He picked up an achilles injury in April which made him miss the rest of the season and Dyche said 'may' need surgery. He was just not picked because Mykolenko and Godfrey were deemed better options. They were considering terminating the loan in January due to lack of game time, not injury. We wouldn't be signing him on loan if he was out for 7 months, that would be wholly nonsensical.
He missed most of last season through injury, it wasn’t just one injury and he actually only played 24 minutes of league football all season. After Rosie’s comments about signing robust players, loaning an already injured player who missed much of last season through injury, is beyond bizarre.
Dennis has a buy option of over 100 million but no one’s paying it Terrible knee injury doesn't like to talk about it
That was because Sporting was stupid enough to buy 50% from wolves for 10M. Its considered the worst signing in the last 4 years by the current sporting coach. Vinagre went very young to Monaco, then tried wolves, sporting and Everton and its been worse and worse. Now im gonna stop being real and support him. Hope he proves me wrong.
The season ending injury wasn’t his first, I saw an article in a Liverpool paper, describing it as an ‘injury-strewn season’ (though the same article also said he looked out of his depth when he did play and wouldn’t have got a look in even if he’d been fit).
If what I’ve heard is correct about him having a medical already I’m sure any concern about current/future injury will be addressed in the announcement by Rosenior.
You said he was supposedly out til October, his injury occurred in April so that's 7 months, you also said(sarcastically I think?)that we should regularly sign players who are out for 7 months. I guess the point I was trying to make was I don't think he is anywhere near ss badly injured, or as injury prone, as people are making out. He just didn't get in the team much at Everton and got injured near the end of the season. Quoted from an Everton page. "Vinagre meanwhile made just two appearances in the Carabao Cup and sat out the final few weeks of the campaign through injury."
Having just released Elder on the basis that we want to upgrade that position to a player of real quality, it would be very odd to replace him with a player with a current serious injury. Which I would suggest means that if Vinagre is indeed coming here, he almost certainly doesn't have a long-term achilles injury. We know Rosenior wants to sort out the injury record, so he's obviously going to be very careful about who he brings in and what condition they're in.
I think some people are annoyed because we’re getting some mixed signals about FFP and whether we need to sell to buy, the prospect of losing two of our best players in Greaves and Óscar and the only players we’ve been credibly linked with have injury issues, despite Rosenior saying he wants ‘robust’ players and wants them early. It’s still early but to dismiss fans’ concerns out of hand and to pace blind faith into Rosenior, Kesler and Acun is silly. I remember the optimism last summer and people saying to trust Shota, Tan and Acun.
Greaves and Oscar aren’t two of our best players though. Like it or not, greaves became second choice. When a first choice left back is signed, he’ll be behind SM at centre back. Oscar, although our best goalscorer, isn’t one of our better players either. Not discrediting either, but I don’t think they’re two of our best players.
