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  1. Saints14

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    Nico Lawrence joined Colchester for a season long loan
     
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  2. SaintsFan86

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    We want £50 Million for Tino, So we can earn £30 Million after Chelsea cut. Must be a massive sell on clause there.
     
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  3. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    To flesh this out a bit - this is broadly how the Livramento deal worked/works when we signed him and how it affects any sale:

    - Saints paid £4m for him
    - There is a clause in the deal that Chelsea take a cut of the profit
    - However, the bigger the profit, the more the Chelsea % of the deal increases on a sliding scale
    - Effectively, this was so that if he became a star, both teams would make £20-£30m each
    - If he was decent but not quite a star, then Saints would recoup a higher % of the money
    - Example 1: Saints agree to sell Tino for £30m, then we keep £18m and Chelsea get £12m
    - Example 2: Saints agree to sell Tino for £50m, then we keep £28m and Chelsea get £22m
    - Newcastle's last offer prior to going public was £23m (£15m to us, £8m to Chelsea)
    - That's how the £15m figure got into the public domain

    The end. :)

    * Bonus point: Chelsea's buy-back clause becomes active this summer, therefore if Chelsea want to buy him back then that bar is set at £50m (of which £12m profit would go to Chelsea anyway, meaning they would only need to pay £38m to Saints)

    (sorry if I lost you midway, but that's the simplest explanation I think I can give)
     
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  4. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Sliding sell-on fee, we want to get 25-30mill profit and need to sell for 50mill to get 28mill
    Newcastle have allegedly bid 23mill, but not a priority for them so purely speculative

    Expletive free response: Thanks, but NO Thanks
     
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  5. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Beat me to it, we have 2 versions depending on readers tastes :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  6. Saints Fan4Life

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    You read the Athletic article too, huh?

    https://archive.ph/RttTE
     
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  7. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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  8. Dark Lord SFC

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    If players truly want to leave and their target club won’t pay up then they can least put in a formal transfer request which means we don’t have to pay up their remaining contract so can discount the fee by that amount. For JWP who is allegedly on circa £5m a year we could drop our asking price by around £15m and make the same amount. Obviously depends on the contractual detail
     
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  9. Wherefore art thou Romeu?

    Wherefore art thou Romeu? Well-Known Member

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    On Livramento - what happens if he goes for money plus player? I've never been clear on that. Is it just a cut of the profit they get?

    I'd be surprised if Chelsea weren't keeping tabs for the figures quoted. They've just lost Azpilaquetta. I suppose he's still a risk after that injury.
     
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  10. saintrichie123

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  11. SaintsFan86

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  12. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    Who is paying who?
     
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  13. SaintsFan86

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    Going to Arsenal then.
     
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  14. saintlyhero

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    Huge pre season for Dom. If he can impress Martin then I could see us not buying a striker this summer and that will test the PTSD of the fan base.
     
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  15. Schad

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    I would take a Piroe, sure, but our striker options should be good for the Championship level (even after we've subtracted between 1-3 of them). Midfield and defense are the real needs, IMO, because we're going to take the biggest hits there.
     
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  16. SaintsFan86

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    Maybe it's too early in the morning for my brain to be fully functional but when did paying up a players contract in the event of a transfer ever become a thing? Signing on fee and loyalty bonuses would be forfeited if a transfer request was handed in but they don't get their contract paid out do they?
     
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  18. Schad

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    If they got the whole of their contract paid out, no one would ever be transferred.
     
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  19. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    Nah you're right. If clubs had to pay players for any years not seen out, because the player decided to move, the entire system would collapse. They'd all be asking for five year contracts, and then trying to leave after six months.
     
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  20. RSS

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    Probably old news but I've been in a field for most of the last week. Going from Gundogan to Kovacic is a bit of a downgrade. Never been particularly impressed by him.
     
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