1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    11,960
    Likes Received:
    21,900
    Mate we're in disarray, the ownership issue is a farce, no dof and any player we'd want to keep will be gone. I'll be amazed as things stand if we finish any higher than mid table
     
    #237021
    BobbyD likes this.
  2. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    11,960
    Likes Received:
    21,900
    Reports today,he's in talks with the club but can't see it myself. Can't see us talking to anyone until we know who's going yo be actually running the club.
     
    #237022
    Welshie likes this.
  3. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,459
    Likes Received:
    23,603
    Leicester mays well just keep Dean Smith tbh, I don't see a point in changing the current manager team. They actually improved under them in the end, just give them a shot at it.

    Saints sacked their fella so are looking.
     
    #237023
    Hamish McMagdad likes this.
  4. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,459
    Likes Received:
    23,603
    What would you prefer? Just keep him in?

    Might give you lot a steady hand for now, and he has gotten teams back up before
     
    #237024
    Diego likes this.
  5. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    11,960
    Likes Received:
    21,900
    When he came in for the 4 games it was a pretty thankless task and initially I thought we could do worse than keep him for the Championship but the way he's thrown the players under the bus basically distancing himself of any blame , which I know he was never going to keep us up, but the way he did it left a bad taste for me and I'd much prefer someone else. The team selection yesterday was pathetic and throwing young Rutter on after basically saying he was no better than useless was outrageous.
     
    #237025
  6. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2011
    Messages:
    62,840
    Likes Received:
    33,315
    Probably not quite as funny as I find it ... <laugh>
     
    #237026
  7. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,459
    Likes Received:
    23,603
    He has an ego like, no doubt, but even for a short term he might be an option to keep you lot afloat.

    Playing devils advocate really, I heard the same stuff about Bruce with us and wanted him gone no matter what, they're the same ilk.
     
    #237027
    Diego and Hamish McMagdad like this.
  8. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2021
    Messages:
    16,380
    Likes Received:
    17,437
    Lampard might not be bad shout for a ........

    sorry sorry I just can't do it :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
    #237028
    Gessa, FosseFilberto and Diego like this.
  9. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    11,960
    Likes Received:
    21,900
    Dinosaurs of the game, the games moved on, they haven't. The problem is who are we going to get, I've heard a few whispers Gerrard has touted himself for the job but his style at Villa was ****e. Its all very frustrating atm, everything is up in the air, apparently any player that wants to leave had been asked to put in a formal request by 6pm tonight, so the club can move forward but how can we move forward when the owner is trying to buy Sampadoria and the 49ers who were supposed to takeover the club but have now apparently decided not to take up the option as we've been relegated. A complete new ownership would be the first decent sign of moving on.
     
    #237029
    BobbyD and brb like this.
  10. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    19,964
    Likes Received:
    26,260
    It’s how they got their money though. The other sides spend but have spent years building up their income. City and Newcastle got taken over and instantly became rich.
     
    #237030

  11. brb

    brb CR250

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    64,037
    Likes Received:
    60,071
    Gerrard <laugh>
     
    #237031
  12. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    11,960
    Likes Received:
    21,900
    I know. <wah><wah>
     
    #237032
    Diego and brb like this.
  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    36,290
    Likes Received:
    41,577
    Same, same.
     
    #237033
    Diego likes this.
  14. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    11,960
    Likes Received:
    21,900
    I think you've got a big job on your hands this close season or you could well be a mid table team, which seems ridiculous. I've hardly been impressed anytime I've seen you play this season....yesterday doesn't count...only because I was in a field and didn't see it :biggrin:
     
    #237034
    Diego likes this.
  15. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2021
    Messages:
    16,380
    Likes Received:
    17,437
    Think you'll find we were well richer than you and most other clubs till the fat slug took us over and syphoned everything off for £1 a shot, contracted every thing out for peanuts and did **** all with our commercial incomes, whilst telling every simpleton that would listen that he'd saved us from the abyss.
     
    #237035
    Diego likes this.
  16. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,459
    Likes Received:
    23,603
    So, Chelsea, Forest, West Ham, Wolves, Leeds and Tottenham have spent years building up revenue the right way have they? What, pocket change in the piggy bank? Saving for a rainy day? Not billionaire owners spending millions upon millions like. No siree.

    I'm reckoning that Tottenhams er ... "success" was due to local funds from hard working Spurs fans? Not the billion dollar group ENIC, who gained massive wealth from plundering the British stock market during financial crises?
     
    #237036
    Diego and Hamish McMagdad like this.
  17. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    36,290
    Likes Received:
    41,577
    I’ve already said on our board we’re basically a Kane transfer away from basically being a bottom half side like West Ham.

    There’s about 5 players genuinely worth keeping out of about 30 players when including senior ones out on loan. Scary how bad we’ve fallen off.
     
    #237037
    Diego likes this.
  18. haslam

    haslam Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2011
    Messages:
    10,783
    Likes Received:
    10,709
    This is only semi-true in our regard. It would be perfectly possible for a new owner to come in and spend the amounts we have without investing into the club externally - we had around 70m in the accounts already (pre-buyout) and due to a few ways Ashley ran the club we had a lot of possibility of raising revenues in the ways most clubs do that he never used (unlike most clubs we used money from the previous season rather than the prospective season for transfers, meaning at any time we could have changed to borrowing against guaranteed future earnings like, as far as I am aware, pretty much every other club does). Add in other factors like we were still getting money from previous sales (as we almost always sold in installments so even players like Perez were still bringing in money) but had nothing outstanding on purchases (we always bought all up front) and the reality is that £200 million over the 2 seasons actually could have come entirely from the clubs generated income and money already in house.

    I'm certain it wasn't as they'll not want to have burnt through it all so will have invested. The key difference isn't what we have spent it's that we're probably going to spend more but rest assured anyone could have bought the club and spent the numbers we've spent so far without investing any of their own money. It would be madness to have actually done it all from in-house money though as we'd have gone from a club with good reserves and lots of future proofing to one on the edge.

    As for not having spent years building up our income that's exactly one of the major issues the fanbase had with Ashley, he had zero interest in it. Money was syphoned from the club through sponsorship and merchandise deals with generated no money for the club whatsoever.
     
    #237038
  19. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2021
    Messages:
    16,380
    Likes Received:
    17,437
    Thing is a good manager with a good work ethos will find a way to bring players you think are **** back to their best. I thought there was no hope for about 23 of our 25 man squad 18 months ago. With only Wilson and ASM worth keeping. Now if a decent offer came in for those 2 I'd wish them well.
     
    #237039
    Diego likes this.
  20. brb

    brb CR250

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    64,037
    Likes Received:
    60,071
    please log in to view this image
     
    #237040
    Mick O'Toon and haslam like this.

Share This Page