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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 29th May)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, May 29, 2023.

  1. milkyboy

    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    Yes thanks to Ell and Doc for their sterling contributions. I may take the piss from time to time :emoticon-0145-shake but it doesn’t mean I’m not appreciative <cheers>
     
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  2. milkyboy

    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    If you know how cut throat the academy system is… it’s impossible to become a professional footballer these days without being a highly motivated and committed fcker. They all want to win, if they don’t try they’re weeded out. Obviously big salaries can dilute the hunger but generally It’s not about effort… it’s about belief. You can hide in full sight on a football pitch, you can buckle under the pressure. The difference between the struijks of this world and top premier defenders is less about ability on the ball and more about frequency of mistakes, brain farts. Attitude and professionalism comes into it - Pro I know has played PL, champ, league 1, says the main difference is attitude. PL players are 100% professional in everything they do.
     
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  3. Doc

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    Jammy mentioned the fitness and running stats. Well Benoire Devaloir who was our fitness coach under Bielsa and has been with Bielsa since Lille days, tweeted yesterday ‘disappointed’. Benoire is back at Lille and doing a great job with a team qualified for champions league.
     
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  4. Normanbitmyleg70

    Normanbitmyleg70 Well-Known Member

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    Nice to put a face to a name Eire. :emoticon-0150-hands
     
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  5. Leedsdude

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    I couldn't understand why we sent Drameh out on loan this season, "Ailing" was injured and hasn't been the same since he returned, age has caught up with him. Kristensen is all heart but he's not very skilful. Going forward, a back four of Drameh, Cresswell, Cooper and Firpo wouldn't be the worst defence in the Championship. Struijk is gone, since he got sent off for that tackle on Harvey Elliot he appears afraid to make a challenge. He's made some huge clangers this season, he needs a new club tbh. Start with the defence, short the **** out ffs.
     
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  6. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Great point. I think we need another Bielsa esque type of coach who can improve players personally and as a team with hungry players on their way up. We didn’t recycle the squad quickly enough. Bielsa said it, the players couldn’t replicate the first season back.
     
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  7. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Just bought a new 65 inch TV to watch next seasons Premier league on.
    Opened the box and no bloody Leeds in it.
     
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  8. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    Dramah is leaving. 1 year on his contract, won't sign an extension and Luton and Burnley want him for PL football next season. He's gone.

    Cooper can't even train properly. He only trains once or twice a week as he just gets injured if he moves around too much. We can't rely on him for 46 games. He needs to leave. Replace him with an experienced centre half who will play every game. Wober can be first sub.

    Cresswell is a great Championship player. No nonsense, young, a good organiser and hungry. Build the defence around him.

    Firpo is **** and always will be. Give the **** away. Go and sign Ryan Manning from Swansea.
     
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  9. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Radz bid for sampdoria has fallen through looks like he'll be staying
     
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  10. Leedsdude

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    Yes Emu, you're probably right about Drameh. Cooper won't leave, he can do job but he's probably too old alright. Firpo is a strange character, sometimes he's great, other times he loses the plot. Probably do alright in the Championship. I haven't seen Ryan Manning play for a while, I'm surprised he can't get into the Ireland set-up though.
     
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  11. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    Just when we thought things would get better. Or perhaps the 49ers are not willing to buy us yet. If he stays then let's hope he has learnt something about running a club.
     
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  12. Leedsdude

    Leedsdude Well-Known Member

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    The last thing Leeds need is for this crap to linger on for 2 to 3 weeks (which looks like what's happening)
     
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  13. oldschool

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    After the abysmal shows this season it's where we deserve to be :steam:
     
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  14. Leedsoflondon

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    Seen nothing “official” from any source confirming that?
     
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  15. Aski

    Aski Well-Known Member

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    Think all the reports are based upon this

    https://www.sampnews24.com/radrizzani-manfredi-offerta-sampdoria-parole-ferrero/

    English translation below :


    The press release that was released by Matteo Manfredi and Andrea Radrizzani on behalf of Gestio Group and Aser Holding to try to clarify the situation is clear. The words a few hours after the extraordinary shareholders' meeting of Sampdoria .

    «The agreement that we have defined with the Sampdoria Board of Directors – underlines Matteo Manfredi, Principal and Founder of Gestio Capital – provides for an exclusivity and was also reached thanks to the close collaboration with various minority shareholders. This demonstrates a broad consensus regarding the proposed proposal. It is important to underline how the capital necessary to conclude the operation is already available, despite some contrary statements expressed in this regard. Our commitment is to ensure the financial stability of the club and in particular to protect the interests of creditors with an eye to those of small size. This offer represents an important departure from the previous ownership and certifies a clear desire to preserve the coat of arms and tradition of a historic club such as Sampdoria. Our plan, which envisages serious and sustainable long-term growth, is already being drawn up and we are setting up our work by planning investments such as to allow the club to return to the levels of excellence it deserves, but time - and this we must necessarily point it out – it's really very very limited.".

    «It is essential to act quickly - continues Andrea Radrizzani, Chairman and Founder of Aser Group - since every day of waiting involves delays and the consequent danger of penalties for the club, also with a view to the next championship. In fact, Sampdoria risks suffering a loss of points or even not being registered for competitions, which would have devastating consequences for the club and for all its splendid and extraordinary fans. Therefore, it is imperative that all parties involved focus on the common goal of securing a strong future for the club. We are truly sorry and disappointed that our offer has been exploited to satisfy the needs of others or to reopen negotiating tables. We want to emphasize that we have worked tirelessly, in a discreet and respectful way towards management and the team, to ensure the continuity of this club. Our commitment is guided by the passion for football and the desire to bring positive results. There is profound pride in making our experience and reputation available, having chosen to invest and put our face in Genoa».

    «In view of these important and necessary clarifications, Gestio Capital and Aser Group are however forced to underline how the offer presented was rejected by the previous owner. An incomprehensible no which also jeopardizes the immediate future of the club, which scares, but which does not stop Matteo Manfredi and Andrea Radrizzani from pursuing the clear and clear objective of being able to give Sampdoria a brilliant future» .

    «The working group formed by Gestio Capital and Aser Group set up this operation in the wake of the successes already achieved previously in the relaunch of other clubs. Leeds' promotion to the Premier League in the 2019/20 season and the following three seasons in the English top flight are clear proof of this. Matteo Manfredi and Andrea Radrizzani have already been working for days to define the next strategies, to define the team's squad and identify a high-profile technician. At the same time, assessments are underway for the definition of an internal structure characterized by an international management. Finally, the already explicit presence of Qatar Sports Investments alongside Gestio Capital and Aser Group confirms the support of reliable, competent and extraordinarily solid partners».
     
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  16. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    But the official report was that it had been approved by the Italian league or the club would go bust.
     
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  17. Aski

    Aski Well-Known Member

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    Well all I can say is that the Sampdoria board accepted the offer and the guy who owns Sampdoria rejected the offer. So I am guessing the "official report" from the other day related to the board of directors saying yes, before getting approval from the owner.

    It would be like the directors of a public limited company accepting an offer subject to approval by shareholders and then the shareholders rejecting the offer

    Sky Italia also reporting on statement issued by Aser & Gestio Capital concerning that Massimo Ferrao has turned down the offer

    https://sport-sky-it.translate.goog...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    Massimo Ferrero has rejected the offer to buy the club presented by Gestio Capital and Aser Group . "An incomprehensible no that jeopardizes the immediate future of the club, but that does not stop the will of Matteo Manfredi and Andrea Radrizzani to pursue the goal of giving Sampdoria a bright future". Matteo Manfredi and Andrea Radrizzani say so. According to rumors, the offer made to the Rosan Trust which controls Samp's shares is less than 30 million while the request is around 33to guarantee two composition procedures. Manfredi and Radrizzani continue to speak with the Trust and hope to arrive at a positive solution by tonight, when the shareholders' meeting will take place. At that time it could be decided to start the capital increase anyway (the two financiers have 35 million ready) in a forced manner and this could pave the way for appeals by the owners. Manfredi and Radrizzani have been working for days to define the team's squad and identify a high-profile coach.At the same time, assessments are underway for the definition of an internal structure characterized by an international management. The two confirm "the presence of Qatar Sports Investments (PSG) in the operation and that alongside Gestio Capital and Aser Group there are reliable, competent and extraordinarily solid partners"



    This is taken from the Sampdoria FC website on the 27 May, stating that the agreement is only a preliminary one

    https://www-sampdoria-it.translate....tr_sl=it&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

    The Board of Directors of UC Sampdoria SpA announces that during the night a preliminary agreement was signed for the finalization of a capital increase in the company by Gestio Capital and Aser Holding.

    The proposal presented by Gestio Capital and Aser Holding proved to be more in line with the interest of the company's creditors and the recovery plan prepared by the club and, at the same time, adequate guarantees were given for the future of Sampdoria.

    The completion of this transaction is conditional on the completion of the preliminary activities to the presentation of the application for the Debt Restructuring Agreement, including, inter alia, the agreements with the company's creditors.

    We thank Gestio Capital and Aser Holding for their efforts in recent days to achieve this result, aware that we still have many activities and busy days ahead of us to finalize the operation.

    We also take this opportunity to thank Alessandro Barnaba and Merlyn Partners for the interest shown and for the commitment and attention they have dedicated to the company.
     
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  18. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Thanks
     
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  19. Aski

    Aski Well-Known Member

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    You're welcome LoL, its not something I have paid much attention to until you asked if there was anything official out there, so decided to do some googling
     
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  20. stonkin

    stonkin Well-Known Member

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    As others have mentioned, many thanks Ell for the breakfast threads and also Doc for the W/E reads.
     
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