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Confirmed (Finally): Russell Martin appointed Saints manager

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, May 19, 2023.

  1. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    I just kind of put that up for fun. I know nothing about either MK Dons or Swansea over the last few seasons. MK Dons doing well after he left could be as a result of the good work he did there etc. It seems SR are looking for someone who can emulate Burnley's possession-based approach that has dominated the league this season. So at least there is some logical reasoning behind the appointment. We just need SR to provide him with the most competitive squad they possibly can.
     
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  2. mustyfrog

    mustyfrog Well-Known Member

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    from Swans site on FB - as fans I am sick and tired of seeing every single manager get lured away from us because they can’t get financially backed, As fans next season it is up to us to protest against these absolute knobs running our club, I have had an absolute guts full of everyone complaining because it’s not us we need to go all full protest every game wherever we will be we need to protest against these fools running our club
     
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  3. Brinkworth Saint

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    46 games then.
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Can't say I know anything of him (or even heard of him prior to a few days back) but some of the posts from Swansea fans don't leave me hugely excited.

    I'd have preferred a manager with a track history of promotion and this feels very much like a Rasmus influenced 'clever' appointment.
     
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  5. hotbovril

    hotbovril Well-Known Member

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    My whelmometer would have been nudged towards the positive by Benitez, van Bronckhorst, Lage or Bilic in terms of who is actually available. I think our relegation has put an end to my hope that we could tempt Postecoglou down here but my earlier point remains in that despite our position, we are a very big and, relatively speaking, wealthy club and money talks. So sure, Potter and Rodgers probably will walk into new PL roles, I get that, but dismissing us as a potential suitor to managers of that calibre is a bit defeatist. Postecoglou is on £2m at Celtic - a third of what we were paying Ralph. Of course we could turn his head and we shouldn't forget that we have the clout to do so, should we wish of course. It appears that this is academic now anyway but my gut feel was that we needed a firm and experienced hand on the tiller at this juncture and may have sold ourselves short. Obviously I very much hope that I am wrong.
     
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  6. timatoketchup

    timatoketchup Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a fan of Satan but to group him with NJ is out of order.
     
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  7. Velcro Roy

    Velcro Roy Well-Known Member

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    This is nowhere near negative enough mate.
     
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  8. Brixham Saint

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    What worries me about this appointment is that he’s going to have to deal with a mass clear out, we are probably talking 10 players plus leaving this summer from the current 1st team squad, which means we’re going to have 6 or 7 new signings.

    He’s then going to take time to implement his style of football as the clubs philosophy has been pressing football (not that we’ve seen much of that for a while) through all age groups, and it will be a massive change for the players that stay / coming through the youth ranks, to suddenly be a possession based team.

    It doesn’t fill me with hope of a quick return to the premier league, though in a positive it does seem that SR are clearer in the way they want to proceed, but will us fans be as patient?

    For me personally, all I want to see is a plan and be able to notice what the manager is implementing and setting us up to play. Don’t feel like we’ve had or seen that for quite a while.
     
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  9. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    As one of the most positive posters on here, my thoughts below:

    This is totally bollocks and I have zero trust in SR choosing him for the right reasons.
     
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    I’m trying to look positive but with all the outs & ins plus it looks like we’ll be playing a back 3 & we don’t have anyone who can play that way, all I see is a “back to the drawing board” approach. RM has a ****e load of work to do & he doesn’t strike me as a magician, more a steady Eddie with a planned, approach being possession based football, rather slow, sorta what we’ve seen with Ralph & the apprentice. Ok, he’s not even in the door yet but it looks very obvious & there seems to be a lot of NJ similarities. I can see this going tits up (no play-offs) but with just enough “progress” that we’ll have to endure a 2nd season of nothingness (what was the film?). Apologies if very neg but I just can’t see it. My half glass full usual, is definitely reverting :-(
     
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  11. saintrichie123

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    No way will we be anywhere near playoffs next season with this appointment…….very happy to be proved wrong though.
    It just seems a safe appointment to keep us midtable….ish.
     
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  12. thereisonlyoneno7

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    I don’t even think it is a safe one. The negativity that will roll over from this season needs a statement appointment, not another Nathan Jones one. If we hadn’t had NJ in this year maybe we’d be on board, but that total ****up cost us our Premier League place and this stinks of a similar appointment.
     
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  13. saintkeef

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    Why don’t you wait until after the Liverpool game for SR’s update - then make your point. Anything else is pure conjecture.
     
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  14. saintrichie123

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    Totally agree, one managerial mistake after another…..Ralph should really have gone after our crap run in the season before.
    I would like to have seen us at least enquire about Rafa…..did well with Newcastle in the championship and is a proven name.
     
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    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Swansea's three years in the Championship before Martin took over (when they finished 10th under Potter, and then 6th and 4th under Cooper) were their three years of parachute payments.

    So whilst I'm unconvinced about us appointing Martin, I won't be holding that drop off by Swansea against him. Trying to equal or better what Cooper did was always going to be difficult without parachute payments.
     
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    You can’t blame anyone for feeling like that.

    I think he will turn out to be a mediocre manager, not quite good enough for promotion. Unless we replace the outgoings with some really good, hungry players, I can see us having an ok championship season.

    Just my overall feeling from what’s happened over the past year.
     
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  17. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    It kind of feels like Southampton FC having a fanbase is a burden to SR. They'd probably much rather we weren't there. At the last fans forum one of the most repeated complaints of the night, was, 'why did you take a gamble on such a relatively unknown manager'? And yet here we are again.
     
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  18. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Rasmus has no need for piffling irritants like fans, for he is the all seeing Messiah.
     
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  19. thereisonlyoneno7

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    In everyday life and at work I say to my team it is ok to make genuine mistakes. It makes you a better person and makes you stronger. You learn by making mistakes, just as we learn from history in mistakes that were made.

    The issue here is that there is no learning from the mistake of the PE teacher from South Wales and we are going from a PE teacher to the head of PE. There is nothing in this appointment that shows we have learned from the disaster - the opposite in fact. SR seem to think NJ was the right appointment at the wrong time, not a total ****er that relegated us.

    …and calm. It’s a beautiful day.
     
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  20. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    If you can’t be bothered with hysteria, whatever you do, don’t look at SaintsWeb. You’d think we’ve just appointed someone’s cat.
     
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