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Off Topic Coronation

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by 123Daveyboy, May 6, 2023.

  1. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree, been a fantastic coronation. The three cheers for His Majesty by the forces was something to behold.
     
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  2. samwise_new

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    i guess the whole show was exactly that, a show for the world that we still have traditions to hold dear.

    that said, is charlie just going to take over 'the seat' and keep it running as it has for far too many years, i would prefer to see our leader declaring something for the people, maybe along the lines of putting governments in their place 'do what you promised, help the people or you are out', someone who earns support from the subjects they are all here to serve.
     
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  3. Sunderpitt

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    Unfortunately or fortunately, I was with a others on a crammed golf course.

    Anything of note happen, the Archbishop drop the crown, Charlie pizzed off, Harry punching Camilla? Ie any good tic toys?
     
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  4. Brainman

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    Penny Mordaunt was magnificent. <diva>
     
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    Are you referring to her superstructure?
     
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  6. MrRAWhite

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    Monarchy can’t interfere with elected government. That would be a very dangerous road.
     
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  7. Sunderpitt

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    the elected rep has to go visit the monarch to get permission to form a cabinet...nothing wrong with a calm, quiet word, after all if they are elected because of the promises they make they should be made to carry them out.

    i doubt anyone would 'mind' if the monarch made sure there were no more repeats of the lies we have been fed over the past years, especially the recent years.
     
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  9. Forpadydeplasterer

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    As a lover of history it was a moment not to be missed, but as a republican it was a double edged sword.
    I respect everyone's views and would not hold them against them, as I hope others would be with my opinions. However I struggle to understand how a family,announced by a probable fictious being, being made or crowned to rule over us absurd. How is this even possible nowadays, especially when the current king is only in power due to his great!?! Uncle abdicating. Surely God didn't choose that <laugh>.
    In my opinion, if there was a family in your street who lived off the state, married there cousins, and had family members with questionable backgrounds, the majority of people would be up in arms about it?!?
    The ceremony was an aborbing watch, and a moment in history not seen by the majority of us. The armed forces were a credit to our nation and put on an excellent showing. However I just can't justify the cost of the whole ceremony when 4 million children are living in poverty,and food banks massively on the rise, in a country which classes itself as the best in the world!
    Hopefully I don't offend royalists who thoroughly enjoyed it and are extremely patriotic but I just can't get my head around it myself
     
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  10. rowley

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    That is what he can't do though.

    He must stand completely above the fray. The King or Queen is unelected and the strength of the institution depends on their absolute impartiality in political matters or anything controversial.

    If he doesn't maintain this position, he will alienate maybe half of the people, and its a slippery slope from there. The late Queen understood this and remained popular andxeelevant because of it.
     
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  11. rowley

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    I'm not a monarchies, but for me if you are going to do these things, do it with all the bells and whistles you've got.

    Certainly, people were multiple times worse off in 1953, and no one bothered that the occasion was grand. I'd say if you have Royal Family , and a Coronation, go for it.
     
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  12. rowley

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    I'm not a royalist either, but have always understood and been happy to accept that most Brits are.

    That said, when you consider the alternative, ( "President Blair" or "President Osbourne") or any other of the vomit inducing possibilities, the edge fades a bit from my argument!
     
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  13. Brainman

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    I’d bet my mortgage on President Johnson getting the gig. Gawd help us.
    The Royal family are there for ceremonial reasons. They are custodians of some of the county’s great houses. They are non-political.
    I’m not a huge Royalist but I prefer them to the alternative. I love the way Charlie has weeded out the bad eggs.
    Most importantly they can entertain and stroke the egos of foreign leaders.
    As for the Not My King gang. Well I think there are more important things to object to. Priorities people.
     
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  14. Ozzymac

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    I think the pomp and ceremony is fantastic. Most people will never have seen anything like it in their lifetimes as most would be to young to actually remember Liz's coronation.

    A lot of young people could learn a lot from someone who's waited 74 years to get what he was born for as compared to the "I want it now brigade".

    Culture and tradition is slowly being eroded and for one i'm glad to see some things continue.

    As for the bin dippers booing the anthem they'd be in jail if they did that in a country such as Thailand where it's illegal to even step on a bank note as it has the kings image on it
     
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  15. 123Daveyboy

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    Really fed up with it now:emoticon-0149-no:.
     
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  16. polyphemus

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    You seem to misunderstand the meaning of a 'Constitutional Monarchy'.

    The Monarch is merely a symbol and has no real power,
    He/She does have some influence, being in a position to ADVISE the Government of the day,
    The Government though can, and often has, ignored this advice.

    As for The Coronation, it's the second one I've watched.
    The first, in 1953 was in very crowded room in a house in Gray Road, on a B&W TV and probably a 10inch screen.
    That Service was much longer and there were many more troops and overseas 'dignitaries'.
    But it was raining then too.

    I found this whole ceremony moving.
    The 'Zadok The Priest' music gets me going at the best of times.
    Listening to it in it's proper setting was a joy

    And like very many other I was vastly impressed by Penny Mordaunt.
    I understand the she changed her shoes for flat soled one for the event, sensibly.
    She also went in for exercises well beforehand.
    The sword is not quite as heavy as it looks, but unlike a standard which is carried in a leather pouch with a shoulder strap, that sword had to be carried by both hands for some time.
    She didn't seem to waver at all.
    Worth a Damehood:cheesy:

    I have a vague recollection that in 1953 there was an elderly gentleman carrying this sword, and he looked rather shaky with it.
    I think it MIGHT have been Field Marshall Montgomery.
    (It was though a long time ago and I was a bairn!!)

    And I would like to congratulate the Security Services, mostly it seems , The Police, for ensuring that the protesters who had threatened to ruin the event, didn't get the chance to fulfil this threat.

    While they won't be happy about this I suspect that The Police saved them from some real trouble.
    The crowd would, I'm sure, have turned on them, long before they could be rescued.

    Britain at it's best.

    Many thank for a memorable day to ALL concerned.
     
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  17. The Exile II

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    Looks like Chris Kamara has snuck into the coronation concert pretending to be Lionel Richie.
     
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  18. polyphemus

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    I had meant to ask if anyone else was puzzled over that part of the music that was in a mixture of Languages.

    I spotted Welsh and Gaelic, but the was, I think, at least one other,
    I wondered if it could be Cornish, but this is just a wild stab.

    Anybody any ideas???

    I appreciated the inclusion of this music from different parts of the Realm.
    Yet another change for the better.


    And during Sir Bryn Terfel's solo in Welsh, which I was thoroughly enjoying, a quotation from the late, great, Sir Thomas Beecham kept intruding into my thoughts,---
    The English, he said, don't understand Music.
    But they do like the noise it makes.

    Me to a Tee.
    No idea what Sir Bryn was on about but I loved the noise he made,
     
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    Think it was supposed to be the 4 languages of the United Kingdom. English, Welsh, Scots Gaelic and Irish
     
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  20. TeamOfTalents

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    Thought his Vic Reeves club singer impression was excellent
     
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