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  1. Jim the Tiger

    Jim the Tiger Well-Known Member

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    It literally says on a box of masks that they do jack all to protect from Covid or similar things.
     
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    Two words.... the second one is tragic...
     
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  3. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    From the BBC


    By Harry Low
    BBC News

    The death of a doctor after his Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab was due to "unintended complications of the vaccine", an inquest has ruled.

    Stephen Wright, an NHS psychologist in south-east London, died 10 days after his first dose in January 2021, senior coroner Andrew Harris found.

    Dr Wright, 32, suffered a blood clot to the brain after receiving the vaccine.

    His wife Charlotte has been trying to get the "natural causes" wording on her husband's death certificate changed.

    She is pursuing legal action against the pharmaceutical company, along with dozens of other people.

    At London Inner South Coroner's Court, Mr Harris described it as a "very unusual and deeply tragic case".

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    IMAGE SOURCE, CHARLOTTE WRIGHT
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    Charlotte Wright says Stephen was "the most amazing husband"
    Dr Wright suffered from a combination of a brainstem infarction, bleed on the brain and "vaccine-induced thrombosis", the inquest heard. His condition rapidly worsened, but the nature of the bleed meant he was unfit for surgery.

    After the inquest, Mrs Wright, from Sevenoaks in Kent, said: "It was made clear that Stephen was [previously] fit and healthy and that his death was by vaccination of AstraZeneca. For us, it allows us to be able to continue our litigation against AstraZeneca. This is the written proof."

    Speaking to BBC Radio 4's World at One, Mrs Wright agreed that some people had not been prepared to listen to her over how her husband had died. She said: "Even with people in my life, there were questions and queries about whether I was actually telling the truth so, two years later, I can finally say it is the truth."

    Dr Wright's mother, Anne Wright, revealed he had been due to start a job at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London the week after he died. She said: "He loved his job, he loved the children he worked with, he loved the young people, and he had a real empathy with them and they really seemed to get on with him."

    Speaking about the coroner's ruling, mother-of-two Charlotte Wright said: "It provides relief but it doesn't provide closure. I think we're only going to get that when we have an answer from AstraZeneca and the government."

    She added: "I find it very comforting that I have two boys that remind me of him every day. I'm just very thankful that I got to marry such a great man and raise our boys in his honour."

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    Dr Wright's mother Anne (left) and wife Charlotte spoke to reporters outside court
    When he outlined the facts of the case, senior coroner Mr Harris told the court it was "very important to record as fact that it is the AstraZeneca vaccine - but that is different from blaming AstraZeneca". He added: "It seems to me that there is not an action one can take at the moment."

    Responding to the coroner's findings, an AstraZeneca (AZ) spokesman said "the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks of extremely rare potential side effects".

    He added: "We are very saddened by Stephen Wright's death and extend our deepest sympathies to his family for their loss. Patient safety is our highest priority and regulatory authorities have clear and stringent standards to ensure the safe use of all medicines, including vaccines."

    Complex chain reaction
    Mrs Wright, who was on maternity leave when her husband died, said that before she received £120,000 from the government's Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS) in August, she had used food banks to help support her children, now aged nine and three.

    Up to 21 March, only 63 out of 4,178 claims received by the VDPS had led to payments, according to NHS figures.

    From May 2021, the AZ jab was no longer offered to adults under 40 after it became clear the vaccine carried an extremely rare risk of blood clots which could be fatal.

    Research into why that happens suggests a part of the AZ vaccine can trigger a complex chain reaction involving the immune system which can then result in clots developing in very rare circumstances.

    The UK medicines safety regulator, the MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency), continues to monitor the effects of the AZ vaccine as well as all other Covid vaccines.

    Side effects of the AZ jab can include changes to the heartbeat, shortness of breath and swelling of the lips, face or throat, according to the UK government. It estimates the vaccine programme prevented more than 100,000 deaths and more than 200,000 hospitalisations from Covid during the first eight months of the rollout in 2021.

    According to a study in the Lancet, Covid vaccinations - many of which would have been AZ jabs - prevented 14 million deaths in 185 countries between December 2020 and December 2021.

    Out of more than 50 million first and second doses of the AZ vaccine administered, there have been 1,300 reports to the regulator of suspected deaths after taking the jab. The MHRA has always said that the benefits of any vaccines or medicines must outweigh their risks.

    Speaking to the BBC last year, Mrs Wright said of her husband: "Being in the profession he was in, I truly believe that if he had been told all of the possible reactions, he would have still taken it [the vaccine] because I am aware it is a rare situation."

    A Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: "More than 144 million Covid vaccines have been given in England, which has helped the country to live with Covid and saved thousands of lives.

    "All vaccines being used in the UK have undergone robust clinical trials and have met the MHRA's strict standards of safety, effectiveness and quality.

    "The vaccine damage payments scheme provides financial support to help ease the burden on individuals who have, in extremely rare circumstances, been severely disabled or died due to receiving a government-recommended vaccine."
     
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  4. Jim the Tiger

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    The first of many. Unfortunately the people responsible are all leaving their posts and buckling up for the fallout. Never forget those who pushed this, including those around you who were using their tiny platforms to promote it. They will be the ones currently pretending they were 'following the science'
     
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  5. Heimdallr

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    There's no doubt that the vaccines were good and helped a certain section of the population, but were completely unnecessary, and perhaps harmful, for another section.

    The issue was the way that the media, and social media, were used to bully everyone who had questions and were uncertain if it was right for them and their family. 'my body, my choice' went out the window, those not wanting a vaccine were labelled killers and the beginnings of a worryingly authoritarian society were seen.

    Tax payers' money was pissed out the window, continual lies were told and no one has had to answer for it...

    Clearly the political scene, media and those involved want it conveniently brushed under the carpet.
     
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  6. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    well said
     
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  7. Jim the Tiger

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    As much as the scum media and those in Parliment are responsible it was not just them pushing it though was it? Who can forget Karen, Dave and Tracey with their facebook profile pictures declaring 'I've got vaccinated to save lives' and their statuses demanding people 'stay home and save lives'.

    It really wasn't their business to get involved in. Do not let your equivalent Karen, Dave and Tracey off the hook.
     
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  8. Ron Burguvdy

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    Did you not unfriend or put them on ignore?
     
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  9. Gone For A Walk

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    Not really the done thing to 'unfriend' your wife, son and daughter though is it?
     
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  10. Jim the Tiger

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    Yup. And told my Dad to go and **** himself when he ridiculed me for not getting jabbed to be able to go and visit him where he lives in Cyprus.

    Several have apologised since and admitted they wish they hadn't had them. Some are finding health issues now including my previously very fit father in law who has had a heart attack and two strokes since his jabs.

    I won't speak to my dad or grandmother again because of it. My grandmother asked me to stop visiting when she realised I wasn't jabbed. So I stopped and won't ever go again.

    People need to live by their decisions in life.
     
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    wow
     
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    Wow indeed!
     
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  13. Jim the Tiger

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    I feel very strongly about it. I also respect peoples right to do what they want to their body and never once challenged them for doing it so I don't expect anyone, family or otherwise, to tell me what to do either.
     
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  14. TIGERSCAVE

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    A really good friend of mine has now been off work for 4 months with no sign of returning to work. He was the main revenue earner in his workplace too. Always bright as a button, fit as a flea and from nowhere he's just out of it. Diagnosed as long covid and thats all anyone knows.
     
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  15. Ron Burguvdy

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    As a result of a Covid or Vaccine?
     
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    I dont know anyone who was remotely ill because of the vaccine but I do know people who died of covid - millions of vaccines taken but one person dies and the ****ing idiots jump all over it- nothings perfect - can't remember the muppets going 'nuts' about banning peanuts because a number people die every year - some people need to stop listening to some of the clowns in the medical profession - like the guy who refuses to say babies but insists they are called 'tiny humans' - personally I wouldnt want them anywhere near me if I was in hospital
     
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    Had 5 vaccines and Covid once (that i know of), like a cold - no regrets.
     
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  18. Heimdallr

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    It's not an either/or argument. You chose to take the vaccine and it worked for you. That was your right. As it should never have been an issue for those who questioned or did not want it.

    The peanut argument is disingenuous. No one is curtailing your right to travel and work if you refuse to eat them. And are they not forbidden in schools and on planes where one person is likely to be harmed by them?
     
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  19. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Again, that was your choice and no one was stopping you from doing so. The issue for most (apart from the 5G crowd) isn't with the vaccine itself, but with the right to choose without losing basic rights.

    "Those who are ready to sacrifice freedom for security ultimately will lose both."
     
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  20. AlRawdah

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    Do you know how vaccines work amongst a population?
     
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