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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Daz, Mar 30, 2023.

  1. TopCat_

    TopCat_ Well-Known Member

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    ****'s sake man. I hope the club manage this better than they did the Johnson case
     
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  2. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    FFS this club will be the death of me :emoticon-0121-angry
     
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  3. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    I think they will
     
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  4. young2077

    young2077 Well-Known Member

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    Think they have already.
     
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  5. JHmackem

    JHmackem Well-Known Member

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    You say that, but I wonder if the club have known since it happened (last May)?
     
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  6. Robertson

    Robertson Well-Known Member

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    Unpleasant stuff.

    Pretty tough for the clubs on how to deal with it. Innocent until proven guilty in theory, and all that.

    In regards to acting, clubs are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
     
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  7. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Did it happen last may
    I thought he was in court this may
     
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  8. Tommyplease

    Tommyplease Well-Known Member

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    He wasn’t proven innocent. Just not proven guilty. Huge difference
     
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  9. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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  10. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Yeah may 2022 offence
    Court may 2023
     
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  11. Sydney Greenstreet

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    he's unemployed now so he'll have to 'sign on you crazy diamond'
     
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  12. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Idiot.
     
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  13. Red n white Tractor

    Red n white Tractor Well-Known Member

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    Not having a go at you with this but I absolutely hate this idea that people are proven innocent. There’s no such thing. People are found not guilty if there is insufficient evidence to convict. That doesn’t mean they are innocent. Take the case of Greenwood. Most people by now have heard the recordings that showed him up for what he is. He isn’t charged because those providing the evidence have withdrawn from the prosecution. The evidence is no longer there. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
     
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  14. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    Words fail me. What an idiot!
     
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  15. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

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    Aye innocent wasn’t the best word, found not guilty was what I was getting at
     
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  16. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Is everyone else fed up with players ruining the reputation of the club they play for, guilty or not they shouldn’t get themselves into that position in the first place, thick,me, me, me bastards, couldn’t care less what happens to him, sooner out the club the better.
     
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  17. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    Well said. Players have to realise that they are not just representing their club, but the city or town where they play.
     
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  18. Draig

    Draig Well-Known Member

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    What about presumption of innocence & the maxim innocent until proven guilty?

    You don't get proven innocent, you are found not guilty of the crime of which you were accused.

    I've not heard any recordings and am not interested in listening to them now, however, the presumption of innocence having being said, I find it difficult to understand how consent could have been deemed to have been established when, in court, Ched Evans admitted that he did not speak to the woman before, during or after sex.

    It is cases like this that make me think that the English juries should have the same options as in Scotland, to find a person Guilty, Not Guilty or to find that the case is Not Proven.
     
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  19. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    <applause><applause><applause>
     
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  20. SAFCDRUM

    SAFCDRUM Well-Known Member

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    I'm totally totally shocked........







    Never knew he lived in Washington
    (BTW if he's guilty he's a c**t)
     
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