Season 1908-09
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Another CAFC, North of the River?
There are two known references to a separate team calling themselves
Charlton Athletic, who seem to have been based in the Stratford or West Ham area of East London during the 1908-09 season. They played
North Woolwich St. Johns FC twice during the season, losing 14-0 at the Saints' home ground on Saturday 17th October 1908, and competing in the return fixture on Staurday 13th March 1909 (result unknown).
Nothing further is currently known about this other Charlton Athletic. It's possible that they disbanded or changed their name some time soon after the matches mentioned above.
Pound Park - Charlton Athletic's third home
At the end of the 1907-08 season Charlton played a memorial benefit match for Bill Pirie, who had died in an accident two days after scoring the goal that effectively won CAFC the Lewisham League 2nd Division. The match was played at a pitch in Pound Park - a privately owned stretch of land bordered on its North East side by the Charlton sand pits (later part of Maryon Park), and on its North West side by Charlton Lane.
Pound Park in this era was a larger expanse of ground than it is today, as Pound Park Road did not yet exist. Until the mid 19th Century Pound Park was used to corral farm animals, before they passed through a toll gate at the Northern end of Charlton Lane (beyond the present location of the railway level crossing). Within the area of the park was a natural shallow saucer shaped depression in the ground, and here a football pitch was laid out some time around the turn of the 20th Century.
The pitch was not surrounded by actual stands like a stadium, but the ground around it where spectators could stand was enclosed for about two thirds of its circumference by dense high hedges. After hiring the pitch for Bill Pirie's memorial match the CAFC committee were impressed by the facilities on offer; superior to those on Woolwich Common, and a lot closer to the Club's original heartland around East Street. A decision was then taken to strike a deal with the Pound Park landowners to hire their pitch as Charlton's new home for the 1908-09 season. It was not long after this that the Club also moved its headquarters - from the Crown pub on East Street to the Royal Oak pub on Charlton Lane, only a few yards across the road from Pound Park.
Pound Park would be Charlton Athletic's home for the next five seasons. During this first one there was no official ticket fee to attend games (the ground was not fully enclosed back in 1908), but apparently a collection was made among fans during matches.
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League & Cup competitions entered this season
Charlton Athletic played their third season in the Lewisham League during 1908-09, having won back-to-back promotions from the 3rd Division to the 1st Division. However, despite being Woolwich & District League 2nd Division Champions the Club decided to withdraw from that league and play instead in the Blackheath & District League (2nd Division). CAFC also entered the Woolwich Challenge Cup for a second campaign.
The curious case of Charlton's reserve team
For the first time ever Charlton Athletic created a 'second team' and entered them in the
Woolwich & District League (3rd Division). Records state that this ambitious venture ultimately came unravelled, apparently because the resources of the young Club were ultimately stretched too far to cover the commitments of two separate teams.
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It is curious that this first ever season of Charlton Athletic reserves came to within three fixtures of being completed before it was abandoned. After an interesting journey, the reserves were still in action until the match before the above table was compiled in mid-March 1909. As well as competing in the Woolwich League Charlton's reserves also played some friendly matches; the following are those currently known of;
CHARLTON ATHLETIC RESERVES 4-2 CONDUIT ROAD SOCIAL FC
Sat 10th Oct 1908
CHARLTON ATHLETIC RESERVES 15-1 WOOLWICH BROTHERHOOD FC
Sat 17th Oct 1908
WOOLWICH ALBION V CHARLTON ATHLETIC RESERVES (result unknown)
Sat 14th Nov 1908
CHARLTON ATHLETIC RESERVES 3-1 MEDWAY ATHLETIC RESERVES
Sat 30th Jan 1909 Medway missed a penalty.
MEDWAY ATHLETIC RESERVES V CHARLTON ATHLETIC RESERVES (result unknown)
Sat 20th Feb 1909
There were some curious refereeing decisions and eyebrow-raising team selections during the Reserves' season as well. On Saturday 31st October Charlton Reserves were thumped 5-1 by the
Personnel Ordnance College Boys in a Woolwich League match. This prompted Jim Mackenzie (former CAFC Club secretary) to write to the Sports editor of the
Kentish Independent newspaper - to comment that CAFC reserves had been entertained and annihilated by POCB, and lamenting that the POC boys themselves had been unable to attend the game, so had sent along their fathers.
On Saturday 7th November
North Woolwich Claremont FC were 1-0 up against Charlton's reserves in a League match when the referee abandoned the game with just
8 minutes left to play, citing bad light. Astonishingly though the result of this game was
not awarded to Claremont. The entire match was ordered to be replayed, which it duly was a fortnight later on Saturday 21st November.
This re-played match
did go the distance, and that wasn't the only way in which it differed from the abandoned game. Charlton reserves bulldozed a 3-0 victory to the fury of Claremont, who protested that CAFC fielded an almost full strength
first team in the clash, making a mockery of their supposed 'reserves' status. Nothing official came of their complaint as far as we know, but the reputation for honesty of Charlton Athletic took a knock.
And more was to come. Only a week later yet
another Charlton reserves League match was abandoned by the referee, this time with only
5 minutes left to play - and no adequate explanation given, to the huge annoyance of Charlton's opponents
St Mary's Rectory, who were 2-0 up at the time. On this occasion though a full re-play of the match was not ordered, but neither was the result awarded to St Mary's.
Remarkably, the authorities decided that just the missing last 5 minutes of the abandoned game should be played out
before the kick-off of the return match between St Mary's & Charlton, which took place on Saturday 16th January.
This was done, and no further goals came during that five minutes. So Charlton Athletic reserves lost 2-0 in the only match we know of that was finished six weeks later (and in a different year) from when it kicked off.
But even that wasn't the end of this strange tale. Having played the 'missing' 5 minutes to settle the abandoned game, the two teams then played their scheduled League fixture for that day, on a Pound Park pitch that was a waterlogged quagmire. St Mary's later described it as the
worst pitch they had ever played on (quite a claim, back in those days). Moreover they were properly riled when they lost the match 4-1 and promptly complained that Charlton 'reserves' was actually stuffed with first team players.
On Saturday 19th December CAFC reserves played the
Personnel Ordnance College Boys for the second time in the season. Having learned from their 5-1 Halloween drubbing, the reserves fielded a very strong team and won the match convincingly by 4 goals to 1. This time though the POCB did not choose to write a pithy letter to the local newspaper. They lodged a complaint with the London Football Association that CAFC reserves had in fact played a full strength first team.
Initially the LFA (of which Charlton Athletic were an associate member) rejected the POCB complaint. But that complaint was then taken to the LFA Appeals Committee, which overturned the rejection and upheld their complaint. They voided Charlton's win and ordered that the 19th December match be re-played.
It is quite possible that this kind of shenanigans were common among reserve teams in this era. Charlton certainly had a strong squad, including many more than 11 players who others might regard as 'first team' quality. However, it could be that Charlton Athletic's inexperience at running a reserve team, combined with the Club's reputation for success and the pressure/expectation of maintaining that, led to poor decision making about team selection for reserve games.
Whatever was going on, it seemed to come to an abrupt end in the third week of March 1909, when a reserve team failed to attend a Woolwich League away match against Charlton Villa FC. Charlton reserves did not complete their 1908-09 season.
First team - Lewisham League 1st Division
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The Lewisham League 1st Division was divided into two sections, supposedly of six teams each. However the local newspaper reports during this season told of Charlton Athletic playing six different opponents in the Lewisham League. On top of this, no Lewisham League tables could be found in those newspapers (differing from the 1907-08 season, where Lewisham League tables were published several times). Of course, local newspaper articles from that era are not complete, so the published league tables may simply be lost. But in the absence of any more information it seems logical to assume that Charlton Athletic were competing in a seven team league section.
Interestingly Charlton Athletic were playing against Braby's Ironworks FC in both the Lewisham League (1st Division)
and the Blackheath League (2nd Division), so competing against Braby's in four league matches during 1908-09. Also, by an unlikely coincidence, Charlton Athletic finished joint top of their Lewisham League section for the second year running - and what's more they shared top spot with the same other team again;
North Greenwich Amateurs.
This should not have been possible, since CAFC defeated NGA in 1098 on their path to promotion to the 1st Division. Yet somehow it seems North Greenwich Amateurs also found their way into the Lewisham League 1st Division. Perhaps they were moved up to replace a team which left the Lewisham League top flight during the summer of 1908.
Once again Charlton Athletic won their tie-break game against North Greenwich Amateurs and went on to be crowned Lewisham League 1st Division Champions - their third straight triumph in that League after back-to-back promotions as League winners in 1906-07 and 1907-08.
First team - Blackheath & District League 2nd Division
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The table above is the latest one found for the 1908-09 season, even though all the teams listed have at least two matches still to play. Curiously the league has nine teams, when ten might seem a more logical choice. However, as far as is known no team 'dropped out' of the League once it was underway in September 1908. Known Charlton Athletic fixtures are as follows;
CHARLTON ATHLETIC 11-0 EAST GREENWICH GASWORKS RESERVES home (Pound Park)
Sat 19th September 1908
East Greenwich could only field nine men in this match, which naturally spoiled it as a competitive event. This was the first known appearance of Fred Marshall (brother of Eddie). Fred bagged multiple goals, as did Townsend, Broom and Mills.
ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS 0-9 CHARLTON ATHLETIC away (unknown venue)
Sat 26th September 1908
CHARLTON ATHLETIC V MEDWAYS ATHLETIC result unknown home (Pound Park)
Sat 3rd October 1908
PELLIPAR OLD BOYS 3-3 CHARLTON ATHLETIC away (Church Manorway)
Sat 10th October 1908
Charlton were without three of their regular players for this match, but which three and the reason(s) are not known. CAFC wasted a chance to win this game by missing a penalty.
CHARLTON ATHLETIC 8-0 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS home (Pound Park)
Sat 31st October 1908
Not surprisingly the report from this match is that Charlton had far too much strength and clever play for the 'Medical boys' to cope with, though the visitors tried hard throughout the whole match. Charlton's forwards were described as brilliant.
BRABY'S IRONWORKS 0-6 CHARLTON ATHLETIC away (unknown venue)
Sat 7th November 1908
Charlton played well in the first half and were 0-2 up at the interval. But they really asserted themselves in the second half, 'smoothing out' the Irons. Fred Marshall scored a hat-trick.
CHARLTON ATHLETIC 5-0 PELLIPAR OLD BOYS home (Pound Park)
Sat 14th November 1908
This game was well attended according to the match report. The first half saw both teams play well and match each other, the score being 0-0 at the break despite Pellipar being down to 10 men after half an hour with a player off the pitch getting treatment. The injured man returned for the second half, but it was Charlton who broke the deadlock on 55 minutes, then added more towards the end of the clash (possibly demonstrating their well known stamina, attributed to good training techniques).
ANTELOPE ATHLETIC 0-6 CHARLTON ATHLETIC away (unknown venue)
Sat 21st November1908
Charlton fielded a weaker than usual team for this match - probably because some regulars were playing for
CAFC reserves against North Woolwich Claremont FC on the same day (Harry 'Razor' Calcutt scored against Claremont). However, Antelope were described as having little idea of the game and Charlton were never troubled. Fred Marshall bagged another hat-trick.
ROTHERHITHE INVICTA 5-3 CHARLTON ATHLETIC away (unknown venue)
Sat 16th January 1909
Charlton's forwards were described as having lost some keenness in this match, while Rotherhithe were described as 'very warm'. The result was apparently unexpected.
CHARLTON ATHLETIC 2-1 BRABY'S IRONWORKS home (Pound Park)
Sat 23rd January 1909
A pretty good game by the surviving account, this match began evenly but with Charlton gaining the advantage and going in 1-0 up at half time. The home team missed some good chances after the interval but did manage to double their lead. The last quarter of the game saw good pressure applied by Braby's and a 'well deserved' goal back - but no equaliser.
MEDWAY ATHLETIC 1-3 CHARLTON ATHLETIC away (unknown venue)
Sat 30th January 1909
Medway Athletic's pitch was described as 'shocking' and all against good football, but this seemed to suit Charlton more (Pound Park was not exactly a bowling green). They eventually scrapped out an ugly win.
CHARLTON ATHLETIC 6-0 ARMY ORDNANCE CORPS RESERVES home (Pound park)
Sat 6th February 1909
A very brief match report described Charlton as 'far and away' the better team and won the game with the greatest of ease.
CHARLTON ATHLETIC V ANTELOPE ATHLETIC result unknown home (Pound Park)
Sat 20th February 1909
EAST GREENWICH GASWORKS RESERVES 0-5 CHARLTON ATHLETIC away (Tunnel Avenue)
Sat 27th March 1909
Charlton took a lead very early in this game through Gritton, after which Mills scored a penalty. Charlton were 0-3 up by half time through Townsend, with Wilson & Fred Marshall netting in the second period.
CHARLTON ATHLETIC V ROTHERHITHE INVICTA result unknown home (Pound Park)
Mon 12th April 1909
First team - Woolwich Challenge Cup
Charlton Athletic fared much better in this, their second attempt to compete in a knock-out Cup competition. Their first Cup tie of the 1908-09 season was against the
Plumstead Congregational Guild FC on Saturday 17th October, which CAFC won by seven goals to one.
On Saturday 28th November Charlton defeated
Plumstead St. Pauls FC by three goals to nil, which set them up for a semi-Final tie against a well known opponent,
New Beckton FC.
This semi-Final was not scheduled until Saturday 27th February 1909, when Charlton Athletic travelled to Church Manorway Plumstead (home ground of Pellipar Old Boys) to take on New Beckton. CAFC were not fancied, and caused some surprise by holding New Beckton to a 1-1 draw. A re-play was scheduled for Saturday 3rd April at Belvedere. Once again Charlton upset the odds, holding New Beckton to a 3-3 draw, even after extra time.
Despite time running out to get the Cup competition completed, the only way to proceed was seemingly to arrange a
second replay - this one again at Church Manorway. Charlton triumphed at last in this second re-play by two goals to one, even though they went down to 10 men in the second half when Fred Marshall broke his collarbone. New Beckton's inability to knock Charlton out of the Cup had attracted a big crowd to this second replay, and the eventual result added to CAFC's growing legend in local junior amateur football circles.
However, those two extra semi-Final replays having to be played meant that there were
no weekends remaining to play the Final. In that era it seems the Winter Football season had to be completed by a certain date, probably to allow facilities and people to be available to play summer based sports.
The 1908-09 Final of the Woolwich Challenge Cup was therefore re-scheduled to be played just before the 1909-10 Football season kicked off - on the other side of the Summer of 1909. Charlton's opponents in the Cup Final were the highly regarded
Royal Army Service Corps team. This team boasted a number of full time professionals in its ranks, and it had just won the prestigious Army Cup. The RASC were expected to make it a Cup Double that season.
On the day around 2,000 fans turned up for the match, held at Chard's Farm off Cemetery Lane. Charlton Athletic emerged
3-0 victors, two of their goals being scored by inside right Harry 'Razor' Calcutt. Like several other amateur players from Charlton's early years, Harry Calcutt lived in the neighbourhood all his life and worked at the Valley as a member of the ground staff after retiring. He passed away aged 73 at the end of the 1950's.
This was a season of unqualified success for Charlton Athletic FC. They won all three competitions entered, and took their total haul of honours to Five Leagues won and a Cup. Truly exceptional for a junior amateur team formed by a group of friends only four years previously.
Charlton Athletic fixture list for the 1908-09 season
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Primary sources of information for this post are as follows:
We've always been Athletic (online) by Paul Baker
The History of Charlton Athletic by Richard Redden
Home and Away with Charlton Athletic by Colin Cameron
The Essential History of Charlton Athletic by Paul Clayton
The British Newspaper Archives (online)
Wikipedia (online)
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