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Match Day Thread Saints v Grimsby FA Cup 01/03 @ 19:15

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Libby, Feb 25, 2023.

  1. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    Erm, we rested Maitland-Niles?
     
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    One fewer game before the end of the season?
     
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    The Premier League just isn't fun anymore, that's why I'm not too fussed.

    Don't get me wrong if we somehow pull of the great escape, it will be awesome. But if we go down, it's all a bit different, different players, different opposition's, different stadiums etc. That could be fun!

    The Premier League used to have more teams that could achieve something.

    Man Utd, Blackburn, Liverpool, Arsenal, Villa, Norwich, Newcastle, Leeds, Nottingham Forest, Chelsea all finished in the top 4 in the first 10 seasons. 10 teams.

    The following 10 seasons there were 8 with Spurs, Everton and Man City all making it along with Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle and Liverpool.

    The next 10 seasons it was 7 with Newcastle and Everton dropping out and the blip that was Leicester winning the league.

    For teams like us it is just going to get harder and harder to stay in the league.

    The Big 4 was coined in the 2nd 10 seasons for Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool, that then became the Big 6 with Man City and somehow Spurs joining them despite never achieving anything.

    Currently we have the Big 7 with newcomers Newcastle joining them, how long before a big 8, 9,10? This pushes teams like us further down the food chain.

    I feel teams will become yo-yo teams more and more. The money Premier League teams have even when getting relegated is so far away from the existing Championship teams, let alone the teams promoted from L1.

    The most excitement we can hope for is either a successful relegation scrap every year or being a yo-yo team.

    Maybe this year is the year we embrace the yo-yo way of life!
     
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  4. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    We've just been badly run. There is definitely opportunity for teams of our size to do well. Look at Brighton, Brentford, and Fulham. Sure, it's a challenge to get up into the top 10, but then every team struggles to meet their targets, except for those with Billionaire owners.
     
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  5. lewebster

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    It will catch up with them, like it did us. Someone posted a link to an article recently about our fall from grace which was quite interesting.

    The fans of teams like us, Brighton, Brentford and even Leicester need to enjoy the good times while it lasts as it won't last very long, that's just the reality of the Premier League I'm afraid.
     
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    We will struggle in the championship playing like this.

    The club is rotten to the core
     
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  7. Deserana

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    I still don’t think we can put it down to how we’ve been run. There are problems now that have followed us since before SR even stepped foot into the club. Players have to have the spotlight on them, if we let them hide behind the board and the manager, they’ll happily take that protection and turn up week after week with just a little less effort each time and still get picked the next week. Or as I call it, the Nathan Redmond way.
     
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    Fair play Grimsby but that second penalty was a joke.
     
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  9. SAINTOSPREY

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    To me this probably ranks as the most humiliating result in 70 years of following the Saints, it hurts more than the 9 - 0's. There doesn't seem to be an active brain cell in the squad, when you see a goalkeeper struggling to stand with fifteen minutes to go, you should at least give him something test his ability? As for Lyblanco and KCC it beggars belief that anyone can be so incompetent. We truly are rock bottom and floundering,we were stitched up like a kipper, even King Canute couldn't turn the tide.
     
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  10. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    That's the reality of football in any of the top European football leagues. Not just the big 5 leagues either. Scotland, Austria, Portugal, Belgium, Switzerland. They're all fairly predictable year in year out.

    There must be around forty or fifty clubs in England bigger or the same size as Saints. So in reality, we've been punching above our weight for the past decade.
     
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    No way. The Leicester 9-0 was far worse.

    Reason being that we're a complete bloody shambles at the moment and a cupset like this doesn't truthfully come as a big shock. Half a dozen Premier League teams get beaten by lower league opposition every season. But getting smashed at home 9-0? No, that's once in a generation sort of stuff (or at least you'd think it would be).
     
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  12. AshbySaint

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    And with this negativity maybe some of the fans should shoulder some of the blame too!!!!!
     
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  13. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    F*ck are you on about? Redmond would be the best player in this current team ffs. He had a goal/assist for every 3.5 games, for pretty much the last five seasons he was with us. They're good figures. Criticism of players with those kind of numbers is absolutely deluded and frankly, arrogant.

    Blaming the players is just daft too. That's like getting angry with a class of students for misbehaving when the teacher has left the room.
     
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    Didn't work with Woote ad Van Poorlviet why why would it be any better now?
     
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    Not to me it wasn't, it was the first sign of how good the Foxes were at the time, they just caught us at an off moment, The United drubbing was down to a lot of other reasons.
     
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  16. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    If it was Man City, yeah fair enough. But Leicester only finished 5th that season. If we accept that kind of result against 5th place in the league, then I don't ever want to be in the Premier League ever again lol.
     
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    I didn't say I accepted the result, it was an eye opener and at least we turned it round at the time, can't see that happening this time.
     
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  18. Deserana

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    I get both sides in regards to the 9-0. It was immensely embarrassing and something we all wish never happened but I don’t remember thinking it was rock bottom. I’m pretty sure it really did feel like a blip (a ****ing monumental blip, don’t get me wrong) but I thought we’d bounce back in the near future and trusted Ralph to bounce back. Same with the second one.

    That’s not a feeling I got tonight. Tonight was through and through embarrassment and shame only reserved for teams at rock ****ing bottom, I don’t see Selles or anyone getting this team back on track anytime soon, I see this as part of the beginning of what’s going to be an immensely dark period of this club. Maybe not to the depths that the Lowe era brought but pretty goddamn close.
     
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  19. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Each to their own. Personally that game still makes me uneasy every time we play Leicester. I won't fully genuinely recover from it for years to come. Absolutely horrific that night.

    The Grimsby game. I'm just meh. Actually its just kind of funny now, seeing how sh*t we can become.
     
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  20. Deserana

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    Okay let’s be real, if we can’t be negative now what exactly would the situation need to be for us to be allowed to be negative?
     
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