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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. saintrichie123

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    All part of Anderson's job; divert attention from the economy, cost of living, disaster of Brexit, etc, etc
     
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    There are some that believe twitter to be a reliable source of news.
     
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    Despite the poll figures showing the gap between the 2 main parties one of the biggest issues, that could close the gap, is the need for ID. Labour and other opposition parties really need to be talking this up now so that those who have been targeted by the Tories don’t have ID can organise it ASAP.
    This lighthearted video explains how the Tories are ensuring that their demographic group retains its right to vote with a variety of ID options, that are denied to younger people.

     
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    Yeah, probably the biggest political surprise for a while! I have a pretty heavy dislike for the SNP, but no doubt she is a political giant.

    At a guess I’d say one of;

    1. Personal reasons
    2. Internal party movements (she didn’t get her preferred candidate into the Westminster leader position recently).
    3. There is some hubbub about party finances and her husband, maybe this is more toxic than first thought?
     
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    Truly heart broken that Nicola is to resign.
     
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  11. StJabbo1

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    Nickers is off.
     
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    Wee Jimmy getting out before some dirt gets dished?
    I'm not unhappy to see her gone regardless of why, her raison d'etre was splitting up the union and we don't need that on top of our Brexit balls up.
     
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    May be she has just had enough..
     
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    Her raison d`etre wasn`t splitting up the union - it was to serve the best interests of Scotland, as a independent country. Different completely. And it wasn`t `our` Brexit balls up !
     
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    I agree she wanted to serve the best interests of Scotland. Unfortunately for us (the English), it would inevitably lead to an eventual breakup of the Union which would be even more damaging for us. Purely selfish reasons really as I'd probably be wanting independence too if I'd been Scottish.

    As to owning the balls up, a large percentage of the English could say the same as you but it doesn't change the fact that we're all in the **** together, regardless of how people voted in 2016
     
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    More English people voted against Brexit than those in Scotland - numerically…
     
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    Just owing to the population differential, if both England and Scotland voted on Scottish independence, you'd probably get more people in England voting for it than in Scotland, too.

    Which, from Scotland's perspective, is a big part of the problem: even if every single person that turned out in Scotland had voted Remain, Leave still would have won by more than 250k votes, and that was in a pretty close overall contest.
     
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    Suspect Nicola wanted to fight UK government on the gender bill, but that was not backed by the rest of the SNP cabinet - hence why she is stepping down.
     
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    I am sympathetic to Scotland being attached to the Brexit debacle, but I still have a two wrongs don’t make a right trend of thought regarding this.

    An international border on GB is a step backwards for everyone on this island and the SNPs approach to independence has been the same as the Vote Leave campaign, I.e cakeism and belittling the ‘enemy’ rather than actually setting out the detail on how Scottish society would be better off.

    I was in Fort William last year and someone had rented out a shop front for independence advertising and it looked just like the Boris bus ‘we send x amount to the U.K., we should keep our own money etc’ it’s just not a way to secure a positive future.

    There is a bitter element to me regarding this in fairness, as the argument about Scots being underrepresented ignores the fact that your average Scot has much more say democratically than your average English person, with the exception of rare one off referendums, but then every British person still had an equal say in the matter, we voted as British citizens not English, Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish etc.
     
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