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  1. saintrichie123

    saintrichie123 Well-Known Member

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    Scarily that is bang on the money ,……yet the Sun and Mail readers won’t believe it.
     
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    Also, to ensure that no trans people get involved in girl's sports (and definitely not as a possible means to determine whether any participants might have abortions, which will soon be de facto illegal), the state of Florida will now be actively monitoring the menstrual cycle all of female participants in sporting programs.

    https://newrepublic.com/post/170192/florida-panel-student-athletes-give-schools-menstrual-history

    Just a thing to keep in mind...all of the trans panic stuff is, by design, a stalking horse for much larger culture wars.
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    Bishoprics out, time to bash the bishops.
     
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  5. saintrichie123

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    Why, when those who deserve a kicking are getting a kicking, do show hosts always try to derail the person making the point?
    Usually because they are of the same opinion of people like Farage.
     
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    It is GBeebies…
     
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  8. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    Exactly. Any sensible person who goes on GBeebies should be aware they’re going to get shut down if they make people like Farage look stupid.
     
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  9. San Tejón

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    Tory MPs, clearly the densest substance known to man.

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  10. saintrichie123

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    By political journalist Brian Reade


    WHERE was the bonging of Big Ben and pealing of church bells to celebrate the third anniversary of our glorious escape from those evil EU slavemasters?

    Was I the only one to lapse into a coma this week and miss the usual suspects banging on about how right they were to set Britain on a golden road to prosperity?

    Or did everyone else also hear a stony silence from the Brexit ringleaders, unable to defend Britain’s most catastrophic act of self-harm since Thatcher flogged our public utilities to City spivs.

    Mind you, as the International Monetary Fund predicts the UK will perform worse this year than any other major economy, citing Brexit as a major cause, what was there to say?

    Rishi Sunak muttered something which sounded like a Fast Show sketch: “Whether it’s leading Europe’s fastest vaccine rollout, striking trade deals with over 70 countries or taking back control of our borders, we have forged a path as an independent nation with confidence.”

    Oh dear. Is that it?

    The vaccine was speedy because we had the NHS database, the trade deals have either replicated existing EU ones or been of minuscule benefit, like the one with Australia that will see GDP rise by less than 0.1% a year, and we were told a pact with America would be a doddle but it’s nowhere in sight.

    As for taking back control of our borders, how’s that going? Asking for a friend in Dover. Brexit did hand the EU control of their borders, which is why Brits face lengthy passport queues and Eurostar leaves a third of its seats empty due to crippling delays.

    Back in 2016, anyone pointing out the economic damage this ill-thought-out jingoistic fantasy would cause were told they were fact inventors who were part of Project Fear.

    So let’s look at the facts three years on from freedom day: trade has fallen by almost 20%, Brexit has added 6% to food prices, and inflation and energy is more costly here than anywhere in Europe.

    Economists calculate EU withdrawal is costing the UK £100billion a year, one of the reasons being businesses are strangled by the very red tape Leavers wanted to be rid of. Ours will be the only major country with negative growth this year and the only one whose economy is smaller now than it was before Covid.

    Our productivity has slumped by 4% because we have alarming gaps in the workforce, partly due to Europeans staying away. Even with the increased immigration from other parts of the world we are 330,000 down on immigrant workers needed to do key jobs.

    And the British nation knows this. Hence a survey that shows of 632 UK constituencies, only one has more people in it who now think Brexit was a good idea than a bad one.

    It still baffles me that millions of sane voters fell for the guff spouted by proven liars like Boris Johnson, right-wing extremists like Nigel Farage, and intellectual mediocrities like Jacob Rees-Mogg.

    We can’t turn back the clock. We have to make the best of an awful hand, as high-profile Brexiteers never tire of telling us. But wouldn’t it be nice if those same shysters, many of whom made a fortune out of Brexit, admitted that they were guilty of either criminal deception or rank stupidity?

    Then disappeared from public view for good.
     
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    Ever seen Liz Truss and Nathan Jones in the same room?

    At some point you have to salute the audacity of the verified wooden spoon holder of Prime Ministers to attempt a return to public life in such bullheaded fashion only months after catastrophic and historic embarrassment on an international scale.

    That takes World Class levels of arrogance and delusion.

    Truly elite.
     
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  13. San Tejón

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    Another Tory MP caught up in unsavoury and illegal activities, although he has laid the blame on his wife. This time the Salvation Army’s Modern Slavery team were involved as Jonathan Djanogly’s wife was unlawfully withholding pay from 2 housekeepers and was imposing draconian rules on them.
    The judge found in favour of the housekeepers.
    The irony is that this MP, in 2013, was “appalled” to discover that modern slavery existed in his constituency. The MP shares the house with his wife so is likely to know what working conditions the housekeepers had to comply with and the piece below shows that he is a typical shyster MP.


    FORMER lawyer Jonathan Djanogly has faced scandals before during his 21 years as a Tory MP.

    Elected in 2001 – replacing Sir John Major in Huntingdon, Cambs – he served as a justice minister in David Cameron’s Government. Mr Djanogly was embroiled in the expenses scandal in 2009 after claiming more than £13,000 to employ a foreign student who advertised herself as an au pair.

    The MP repaid £25,000 in expenses. In 2010, it was also reported Mr Djanogly had hired private detectives to investigate aides and colleagues.

    Mr Djanogly defended himself, saying: “I would never have contemplated condoning anything unlawful or dishonest in the investigations.”

    His website details a 2013 exhibition highlighting the hidden nature of modern day slavery. He is quoted saying: “I was appalled to learn even my constituency is affected. I want to see the Government put modern day slavery at the top of the agenda.”

    The MP, a father of two, earns £30,000 a year as chairman of a venture capital trust.

    He also owns consultancy business CGLV Limited. His wife Rebecca is a director.
     
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    An example of the micro management regarding the attached post.


    DICKENSIAN working conditions imposed at MP Jonathan Djanogly’s home are outlined in written instructions revealed by Hazel.

    Orders running to more than 100 words addressed the ripeness of avocados. They said: “Check the avocados in the bowl & put any that are slightly soft into the fridge.

    “Check to see if there are 8 soft avocados in the fridge... if not add up the missing number of soft avocados and put this number of hard avocados into the fruit bowl.

    “So if there are 2 soft avocados in the fridge put 6 hard into the bowl. Or if there are no soft avocados in the fridge put 8 into the bowl. If we have less than 8 avocados in total put on shopping list. Now review soft avocados – If there are any that you... will not eat today and that are unlikely to last till tomorrow then let RD [Rebecca Djanogly] know by WA [WhatsApp].” Housekeepers also had a “morning priority items” list instructing: “PLEASE DO TASKS IN ORDER SHOWN.”

    The housekeeper was instructed to clean the bottom of her shoes “with kitchen roll if there are solids... but just a damp blue cloth if no solids and dry the bottom with a dry cloth”.

    Of hand-washing, the order read: “Don’t turn on the tap till you have finished cleaning hands with the liquid soap.” Another note said: “The idea of the chart is so you know if I’m happy. If the chart is done then I’m happy. It’s [sic] a big house and you cant [sic] remember everything so please stick with the chart and take it round with you... don’t tick before you’ve completed line on the chart. Let me repeat… don’t tick before you’ve completed the line on the chart.”
     
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  15. San Tejón

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    Interesting ruling against Amazon in Spain. Won’t have any impact on the UK, I guess, but might have an impact in other EU countries.

    Online shopping giant Amazon has been condemned by a mercantile court in Madrid, for its system of employing 2,166 delivery drivers on a "self employed" basis. The workers had to supply their own vans, and had to work through the Amazon delivery app. The court considered them to be "false self employed," which enabled the company to avoid payment of the correct social security. No word in the aticle about what sort of penalty which will be imposed. More info Fresh radio Spain 08.00-10.00
     
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    I think the U.K. is actually, for once, ahead of the game on this one. There have been several court rulings against employers who hide behind these bogus employment contracts, involving the likes of Uber and Addison Lee. Meanwhile, members of the GMB Union in Coventry recently staged the first ever strike at any of Amazons depots.
     
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    Saddest thing about this is people actually pay to listen to this clown.
     
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  18. San Tejón

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    Just listened to the new Tory Party chairman being interviewed and he says the next general election will be next year.
    Would prefer it this year, but at least they don’t seem to be hanging on until January 2025.
     
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    Former Labour MP.
     
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