Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

Richarlison was not a player that excited me when he was at Everton. He was a diving cheat.
Not worth £60m or anywhere near it.
Didn't want him but Conte did so I hope he does well but i fear he'll be (at best) like a ****housery version of sissoko imho

 

been here half a season

‘a total flop’

I’m going for

‘needs time to settle’

Richarlison has been on par with the performance level of the whole squad at worst. I don’t think we purchased him to drag the whole team. I don’t see what he’s done that’s terrible tbh. He’s no Ndombele as he clearly works his socks off and his focus is definitely with us. If he’s good enough to star in a Brazil team then he’s definitely good enough for us.

Is it the punchable face? I can’t recall people getting on the backs of Soldado, Jansen(off the top of my head)… ever. They were just ‘unlucky’ but ‘we love him’ because ‘he works his socks off’ was what I recall reading or words to that affect.

He’s been injured and we’ve had a World Cup all within the time frame of his first and most recent game for us which is about 6 months…scratch 2 off for injuries/World cup…that’s about 4 months of football with his new club.

in other words

he’s just turned up

 

Many fans barely allow a player any time to come to terms with a new team. I find myself repeating the 'football is a team game' quite a bit, because any given player does not necessarily perform the same in every team they play for. Whatever skills a player possesses it will always depend on other players as to how those skills will work.
The other obsession amongst football fans is the cost of the player. I suppose this comes from playing digital football games because I don't see what relevance that has to me as a fan. Why should I judge a player because he cost 60 million or earns 100k a week? It has no bearing on his ability it's just part of the market that football has become. The media has always liked to talk about transfer fees because it makes a good headline. It's all part of the great football myth that clubs like City and Chelsea bring to the game and I can't see how any of it improves football. Once again the media love and constantly swoon over the 'wonderful' City. I just mentally exclude them from observation of the game.

Although I am especially delighted when we beat them.

I don't suppose we will return to just watching our team and judging their performance without all the bollocks about 'He cost us £60 million and he missed that kick.'

I do sympathise with fans who are paying the Spurs premium to watch their team and that is the factor that justifies the obsession with costs.

 

Marca claim we're looking to sign both Yannick Carrasco and Jan Oblak from Atletico Madrid

One obvious issue with signing Carrasco: Udogie, Sessegnon, and Perisic all happen to exist

The other obvious issue is that the tone of the article is more "Atleti should dump these players on Tottenham" instead of suggesting we're looking at them

 

He doesn't have to "displace" anyone.
This is about SQUAD MANAGEMENT.

Specifically, if Kane/Son/Richarlison are X/Y/Z,
can Z be in a starting XI with X, and do the job so that
Y will then at worst only need to be on for the final
25-30 mins as a sub etc ??

I contend that the answer is yes.

For an extreme example of this : Man Utd 1998-99.
Cole and Yorke were the main men, but OGS
was chipping in nicely (and so to a lesser - but
more legendary - extent, was Teddy) .

 

Wage 'poisoning' is primarily a problem for the stupid player
+/- bad financial management.

Throughout the heavy part of my career, each year I set the
financial target I wished to reach (based on my personal
obligations) . Which boiled down to a weekly target T.

If I did not get T, no deal with the client.
Every penny above T a client paid was a BONUS, and
NOT budgeted for.

So I had years where I was getting akin to PL money, and
I had years where I was on akin to lower league wages
When the years of the latter were far greater than the
former, financially I did not even blink.

This is the reason why I am open to clubs taking control
of the finances of their kids.

 

If he could be a Solskjaer/ Defoe/ Giroud type from the bench, that'd be brilliant... but he hasn't scored once from the bench yet, with zero goals in the league.

He's also often looked poor in general whenever he's come on or started, often seeming out of sync with whoever he's playing up top with. And unlike what we all thought upon signing him, he actually can't play across the front three as we'd hoped. So realistically we've just replaced Carlos Vinicius for £60m and with so far a weaker goal return.

 

Maguire?!? Really? I don't think these signings are anywhere near close. I don't care what rival fans think either.

I was an admirer of Richarlison before he went to Everton, but when he scored from a Perisic cross in the CL, it confirmed how useful he will be for us, and even more so when Porro is delivering from the other side.

Did you not see Richarlison's World Cup goal of the tournament? Are you also aware that Richarlison's contributions in the champions league are very much a big reason why we are still in the competition?

I don't understand the Richarlison hate personally. Much like many players in our squad who currently get slated at the slightest dip by Spurs fans, he's been recovering from injury and needs time, both on and off the pitch, to get back to fullest form.

 

It's not hate and I'm not sure why it is being perceived as that. I'm not too critical of Richarlison the player as I think he's decent enough, works really hard and has a sense of humour that is easy to warm to.

Where I and others are critical is the club's decision making with regard to both the amount spent and the position we chose to spend it on.

To put this into context, aside from the addition of Romero 4 windows ago, we've done absolutely nothing to refresh a defence that was beyond repair for years, going back to the 2018/19 season when both FBs were finished, Toby/Jan were on the decline and Sanchez hadn't (and still hasn't) progressed to the level we'd hoped he'd progress to.

Mourinho was given a slap in the face when we attempted to fix those problems with Joe Rodon, which as everyone predicted turned out to be a complete waste of £15m and a massive step back in the youngster's development.

We learned our lesson a year on and spent big on Romero but he is only one piece in a puzzle that had two pieces back then and three pieces under the current manager.

We clearly only had enough money for one 'marquee' signing last summer and the fact we prioritised a back-up attacker over a first choice CB was and still is baffling to me. So we paid through our teeth for a player to largely sit on the bench and opted for the cheap option at the back in Lenglet who seems a decent player too but is barely an upgrade on Davies who himself is barely good enough for a top 4 side.

We've therefore gone 2 whole years without strengthening the back line and in that time our GK has also hit a massive if not unexpected decline, which means come June we'll be looking at two first choice CBs and a GK...something to the tune of £120m right there.

I sympathize with his injury record this season but at the same time I keep coming back to what I said the other day. Turn back the clock to August and instead of £60m on Richarlison, spend £50m on a top CB and another £10m on a Llorente type attacker to sit on the bench as cover. I struggle to believe we wouldn't be significantly better off in the league had we prioritised this more logical and far more urgent decision.

It was a poor decision very much reflective of Conte's decision making in the market when he was at Chelsea. He made his name in management with a back line of Buffon, Chiellini, Barzagli and Bonucci. I can't understand when or why he lost sight of how important a solid base is if your preferred system is a low block counter. Baffling.

 

Why aren't they? Other than their positions, there's a lot of similarities - considered "decent" Premier League players, perform well for their countries, got bought for fees you'd expect to pay for world class players and thus far haven't lived up to them, granted Richarlison's had considerably less time but so far he's done little to change the opinion of people (like myself) that raised their eyebrows in the summer.

Scoring from Perisic's cross against a team with ten men was much needed but it didn't confirm much to me. Lenglet and Hojbjerg both scored huge goals for us too to keep us in the Champions League.

His goal at the World Cup was absolutely superb and I hope he wins the Puskas award but I fail to see what scoring for Brazil against what many would agree is lower tier quality than what you'd face in the Premier League most weeks has anything to do with his potential success at Spurs?

I don't hate Richarlison, I just don't rate him. I didn't agree with spending so much money on a backup, especially as I didn't think it was value for money and more so when the funds could've been used for more pressing needs for our starting XI. 6 months in, he's done little to sway my mind over his signing and the areas of concern we've had with creativity in midfield and solidity at CB still remain.

 

Oh thank god...

 

With the Lloris news I wonder if the club will try to see if they can be permitted to get an emergency GK?

TCM said on the rival thread before the window shut if anyone would take Navas seeing as he was set to go Forest… bet the club wish they had hindsight back then!

 

Got to hope Forster steps up to the plate, not sure we could get anyone better at this point, and unless Forster was injured too I doubt we would be allowed an 'emergency' loan.

 

But we all remember which team were allowed an emergency loan in spite having at least one of their first team keepers available - and then spent months whining that we signed a player before the transfer window shut but they convinced themselves it was after because they're ****ing idiots who think Oasis are anything other than some pub rock chancers

That's right: The Sheikh Mansour Team

 

The Mirror reckon we may turn to Ben Foster as an emergency free agent signing.

He did actually retire in September after supposedly rejecting an offer from Toon as he wanted to stay close to his family and continue his YouTube career but I suppose a 6 months contract in London would allow him to remain in London, do YouTube and play backup for a couple months.

Some poetic irony in there though that the guy who pissed us off so much with his time wasting over the years would end up doing us a favour of sorts by providing some backup to Forster.

 

It is the end of days.

 

Pretty much confirms that Austin's only in the squad for the CG status

The fact he's third-choice ahead of Whiteman, who has more football under his belt (gloves, whatever...) also says a lot

 

That would be a massive kick in the teeth to Austin and Whiteman (not out of keeping with our treatment of other young players), but its for a place on the bench that hope not to have to use and if you do, good luck to them.

If the worst happens and we were to lose Forster too, surely we would then go and get an emergency keeper who has at least been training for the last 6 months.

 

Tiago pinto (Roma sporting director) on Zaniolo: "Even I may think I should earn X money, but if I decide to leave Roma and I see that only Bournemouth and Galatasaray want me, you have to ask yourself some questions"

 

Apparently he has a £30m release clause at Galatasaray

Who's the Italian Everton?