Transfer Rumours for Jan 2023

Or loan out 40 a year for other clubs to pay their wages just like the scum have done for ages. Surely it would be worth the risk , but I fear our owners are happy with staying in the Championship these days. Is it 100% down to to FFP or could it be that they don't want to lay out what it might take to actually achieve promotion ? Forest had been hit a couple of times with transfer embargoes due to offending, yet once the Greek mafioso came along, wallop. He starting throwing cash at the manager to get promotion and he isn't stopping now that they have been. He's said many times that once he was invested in the club, he wasn't gonna stop until they were in the Champions League ! I don't like the guy, but you have to say he's as good as his word.

 

There's also TV revenue to add into add. Paying wages to Niko and Thomas and alike hasn't really helped our cause has it ? I keep going back to the recruitment and the owners, when your on a shoestring budget you need your scouts to step up to the plate and find proper talent. Sure it isn't gonna work out all the time, but some of the dross these ****ers have lined up for us is beyond the pale. I wonder how much Les in on a year ? What a sterling job he's doing. I bet our books would look a lot healthier with his yearly salary still in the kitty !

 

I agree with most of that apart from us being an attractive club to new owners. If the current ones had managed to find a site for a new multi purpose stadium then that could've been different. I just can't envisage any big hitter/s, wanting to take us over with such a limited possibility of large attendances. I remember going to the Mcguigan v Pedrosa fight there years ago and the place was jammed and rocking, I don't know why we haven't ever tried to arrange similar events or concerts there ever since. Seems like another possibility of revenue we missed out on !

 

Yes, there are TV and sponsorship revenues to add, but they don't make up the shortfall. Excluding net transfers, we are a loss making club, meaning we have to make a profit on transfers to hope to break even. Many other clubs are in a similar position, but what most of the others don't have is the threat of further FFP fines hanging over them if they don't comply.

Ferdinand's salary really won't be a significant factor in the profitability of the club. Anyway, whatever he gets paid, he's earned countless times over by getting rid of Redknapp, the real culprit.

 

What I can't understand is how are Stoke and in particular Middlesborough, continuing to bring in high profile signings after being warned about probable FFP repercussions only last season ? It looks to me as if Boro have decided with Carrick now in charge that they are gonna try and fo a Forest and to hell eith the consequences. 2 more Villa players added to the squad on loan in Archer and Ramsey who are both on decent wages. I can't see them catching the top 2 so it's win or bust in the play offs as is the case with Brom. Stoke are in a worse state than us, and if they get hit with FFP next season I can see them doing a Bolton !

 

It's amazing how since Boro got rid of Wilder and Lumley, they've rocketed up the league ! Carrick doing some job there, and obviously a keeper who can catch the ball makes a big difference.

 

These clubs are taking the risk that we took, but if you do that you have to get promoted and stay there. We didn't.

 

Let's see what happens with Boro and Stoke next season then, Boro might go up via the play offs but Stoke ain't going nowhere !

 

Actually I think (and not for the first time) the silence from the club is the most damaging thing. I'm a mix of disappointed and ambivalent regarding our transfer dealings but the club seem to do nothing to try and douse the flames of fan unrest. Honestly it's ****ing ugly on Twitter at the moment, there will always be idiots of course but if the club had been more open about what to expect they could have avoided some of the ill feeling. Ironically, I think the fans play an even bigger part from here on out, we know the squad is wafer thin, they need support more than ever, boos are going to make the situation worse.

 

They wont be booed as a rule, if they bother trying

 

With respect Beth, that's a ridiculous attitude.
Enter all competitions to do as well as possible, or just don't bother!

 

Exactly.

 

I believe the "something else going on" is probably that we are close, maybe very close to breaching FFP / P&S (Profit and Sustainability) rules I think it's now called, with the rolling 3 year maximum permitted losses of £ 38 M I think it is. Investment on training grounds is excluded from this if I remember right.

I understand Accounts for last season will be released shortly, and the Club should have by now a very good forecast of how this season is turning out. Further Hoos is shortly going to publicly answer questions from us supporters. Those questions will have included loads of questions about where we are on meeting this £38M requirement. Let's hope he has some good answers, though judging by what I've heard and evidenced by our bringing in absolutey nobody to replace or play alongside the sick Dykes, it's unlikely to be good news. I really hope for Lyndon's sake and ours that he recovers quick and fully.

 

I think they still have different P&S rules in the PL than we have to survive under in the EFL.

 

They are planning to change the FFP rules and it is going to be your not allowed to spend more than 70% of your incoming revenue ! I fear that will be even worse for us, what with our smallish gate receipts and merchandise selling. We will be spending a pittance on players, every rule they pass just seems to be for the benefit of the bigger clubs and at the detriment of the smaller ones !

 

They seem to be chancing it.They used us as a benchmark, a deterrent for future clubs that broke the rules,plus the following court case they wanted to make us suffer..which is all good and well as long as the punishment is for one and all..FFP don't work,the likes of Chelsea finding loopholes,City with the stadium etc

The apathy and malaise,comes from the owners/upper management's constant non involvement in promoting our club.Yes they fulfill the shortfall every year,which im grateful for,but that's it! Wouldn't it be refreshing if we had some forward thinking owners who would try to bring in more revenue.
I read that some reporter,a QPR fan that noticed that Leyton Orient had posters up in their Manoron the tube promoting their club,he mentioned this to Hoos and that theres no posters/promotion in the area and westfields..the answer was " he'd rather spend the £250k on a player rather than putting up posters etc".
Going back to the malaise..that filters down to us the supporters,and if a club is ambitionless,with zero progression and a team that plays awful football then the Booing will start and the faithful will dwindle,and question why they invest in a club which doesn't invest in them.

 

Not sure if what this applies to what I said Col, a bit confused.

All I said Chelseas plan has a defined risk.
Offering 8 year contracts, and the player is either useless or badly injured early doors...and you are left with a bill to pay yearly for 7 or 8 years.

Nothing about entering competition to win them...
It is a financial risk that allows then to pay a higher transfer cost than other teams...it is legal cheating

 

You implied that we shouldn't aim high in case it all goes wrong.
I can't accept that way of thinking.

We must believe anything is possible, no matter how improbable (see Leicester, or Fulham or Brentford).
Too many fans seem to just want to accept that we're a league 1 club and should be happy with that.

 

I believe Manchester City’s stadium was paid for by Manchester Council for the 2002 Commonwealth Games and the club lease it.
No idea how the gate receipts and sponsorship naming work but there are some clever people making it all work for the club.

 

****ing hell Col...League 1 ?

We’re nowhere near that level