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  1. FTM Dave

    FTM Dave Well-Known Member

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    This is a photocopy of what the son of a good mate of mine did some years back.

    My mate represented him in court.

    Due to his youth and no previous and hanging his head in shame he avoided getting sent down.
     
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  2. John Wick

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    I had a full paragraph typed out but then deleted it out of respect for Tees, whom I get along with in the few convos we've had on here as he is close with the person in question.There's a special place for f**kin tossers that get behind the wheel pissed. I hope his Mam gets sorted. Sorry if my opinion is strong Tees, but I pass a shrine twice a day going to work because of a very recent young person's death on the road.
     
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  4. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    What was the outcome mate?
     
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  5. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    I totally respect and agree with your views mate and thankyou for holding back incase I'd be offended. Big respect mate :emoticon-0150-hands.
     
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    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    One thing that needs to be drilled into him before he goes to court is crawl and beg for mercy like you never thought was possible, the court likes that and it will be well worth it, Come the clever lad and he could be doing time, get that into his head Tees and he should be ok.
     
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  7. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    IMO he should be locked up, and the key thrown away for a very long time.

    Absolutely no excuse for his behaviour and just think what might have happened.

    Bart
     
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  8. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Close to my heart this one. Years ago in chester le street, my Cousin was mown down by someone who did exactly the same as you’re talking about. She was killed. He had rich and well known parents. He got a ban from driving. Nothing else. She was 16 and on the pavement ffs. Me, I want your mate to do time. Sorry for the lack of sympathy mate but this hurts me.
     
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    Milton Nunez's Thong Well-Known Member

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    Twice the legal limit works out at about 4 pints. Surely 4 pints isn't enough to make someone think that knicking a car and nearly killing themselves was a good idea. Sounds like an absolute bellend.
     
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  10. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Hes been released after 20 hours and has to go back when they contact him within the next 2 months to read him his charges
     
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  11. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree mate not gonna argue with you
     
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    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    That's brutal mate, so sorry to read that
     
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    My condolences mate, horrendous thing to happen. Did the family try bringing a civil case against the driver? I know it wouldn't bring your cousin back nor punish the twat driver, but it may ease some of the pain.
     
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  14. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    It's not a mate, it's my ex partners son who I'm in the process of trying to work out a solution to continue my relationship with. I am close to her sons
     
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    About 6 years ago a young lad took a 4x4 without the owners consent from a house down the road from us, he came racing around the corner onto our road where 3 cars were parked, mounted the pavement, demolished the neighbours wall and fence then got stuck on top of my hedge. He ran off but my next door neighbour and a few others ran after him and caught him.
    He had been drinking and was also on drugs - he lost his licence and because he had previous was sentenced to 3 months jail but probably only served 1.
    Thankfully that wall, fence and hedge stopped him causing any damage to our houses and amazingly he missed the 3 parked cars and more important - no one was hurt.
     
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  16. FTM Dave

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    I've been racking my brains trying to remember (my mate had a lot of health problems and died a few years back, and I've since lost touch with the rest of his family).

    I know for a fact though that the lad didn't go down.

    Plus that he was "paying his parents back" for a long time, so presumably he got a long ban and a large fine which his parents paid then made him pay back a part every month.
     
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  17. FTM Dave

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    Sorry for writing such a crap answer mate.

    I know, vaguely, that judges are expected to follow guidelines, they can't just decide to be hard cases 'cos they feel like it. I've found some stuff here https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/outlines/

    I also have a mate who works for the CPS. I could ask her if she knows more, or could indicate a more detailed site, if you want.

    TBH it'd probably be worth him forking out £50 or so to see a solicitor to find out the likely sentence, once he knows what they charge him with. Sentencing guidelines should be day to day stuff for a solicitor.

    Some solicitors will offer an initial, short meeting for free. There used to be a "green form" thing where you could have a short meeting with a solicitor and legal aid would pay for it, but I'm an old fart and have no idea if this still exists. However, surely worth e-mailing a couple of local solicitors and asking.
     
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    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Thankyou mate, the advice is very much appreciated :emoticon-0148-yes:.
     
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    My concern for the mam is that if she gave consent knowing he had been drinking she would be complicate in the event that took place and that would have serious implications for her as aid and abetting.

    On top of that he took his brother if he was a minor that too may have consequences.

    Whatever happens he has escape a murder charge and l pray he will learn a valuable lesson and behave in future, cars are a dangerous weapon in anyone's hands and very few of us are Lewis Hamilton.
     
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  20. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    His brother is 16 so I'm not sure if that would class him as a minor or not.

    His man had fallen asleep, she was completely unaware what was going on. She was woken by a phone call from her sons phone with the Police on the other side of the phone
     
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