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Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He doesn't use the squad that he's got.
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I agree with the second paragraph, if Conte goes another 3ATB manager will be best.

    But I’d probably say Romero could play in a back four, he’d just need the right partner, whether that could be Lenglet or not is an unknown. I’d also say Dier can’t work in a four, was atrocious under Jose and his best football as a CB has come in a three, under Poch when alongside Toby & Jan and then last season under Conte, this season though he’s reverted to the shaky and mistake-ridden mess. Just simply not a good enough starter but he’d make a solid squad option.
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    What I don't get is how Tanganga has all the tools to be a left-sided Ben Davies in both 3ATB or 4ATB...but he's been utterly dogshit every single time Conte has started him, which effectively means we'd have to go 4ATB to play him as a Davies/Foyth-type RB

    Also, the issue with going 4ATB ATM is that Perisic simply cannot play as a LB. While we have Davies and Sessegnon in place (plus Udogie in the wings) to play there, all that does is clutter our LW options as then we'd have Son, Perisic and Bryan all vying for one spot, and that's before the various left-sided forwards we're being linked with of late
     
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  4. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    So who's wrong, you or Conte?
     
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  5. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I think that’s partly down to having no faith from the manager and starting about 1 game in 20 under him (if that), barely any player will excel. Tanganga was excellent before his injury under Jose and looked like he was gonna be a real breakout star, the Tanganga now under Conte looks shot to bits, injuries certainly haven’t helped but barely playing despite Sanchez and Dier regularly making mistakes will be terrible for morale and it’s been somewhat evident Tanganga’s wanted out since at least the summer so that probably hasn’t helped.

    I don’t want Spurs to go with a back four anyway, that was CK’s idea. Davies is the only player we know for sure that could adequately play a FB role of all our options too and even then he offers little on the front foot. Sessegnon can’t play LB (nor LWB if we’re honest), Perisic can’t play LB, Doherty can’t play RB, Tanganga might be able to play RB long term but the sample size is too small to accurately judge/ predict, Spence is an unknown, whereas I’m convinced Emerson can’t actually play football, let alone a certain role.
     
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  6. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because he was given players he did not want and has other players he does not rate. Back him properly in the market and you would see a different story. You don`t hire a manager like Conte (everybody knows how he operates and what to expect) and expect him to change his ideas to accommodate the club, the club should be changing their ideas to accommodate Conte, otherwise why bother hiring him.
     
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  7. The Changing Man

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    Hasn't Romero just played in a 4 in a world cup winning team? And next to Otamendi in the main, who is very experienced but not the most mobile centre back!
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I'm pretty sure most managers would say they've been pretty well backed if their DoF signed them Bentancur, Kulusevski, Perisic, Lenglet, Richarlison and Bissouma, plus a top prospect in Spence and that's on top of inheriting players like Kane, Son, Lloris, Hojbjerg and Romero.

    If he's struggling to get a proper tune out of this current squad that many pundits and fans predicted to finish third, then the problem lies with him. He's being paid a fortune and unlike Jose/ Nuno/ Poch 2019, he hasn't got a largely **** group of players to fall back on as an excuse.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    At present, Conte

    If he wants Tanganga to have minutes, he should either include him more or allow him to go on loan to get regular football. Instead he's done neither, and as a result Tanganga has stagnated

    That's poor squad management, and hardly the only example since Bryan Gil and Pape Matar Sarr are in the same boat
     
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  10. Billy The Spur

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    He`s got a largely shiete group of defenders to fall back on as an excuse, which is where most of the problems lie, throwing away points due to individual errors. No amount of polishing is going to turn them into good enough players and some of them should have been replaced years ago.
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    It’s not largely ****, it’s a mixed bag, as there’s also some very good players and some who would be decent squad options, amongst the poor ones.

    Though what makes it look worse is he picks some of the poorest options to start games then probably wonders why he doesn’t get the desired performances. His style of football also puts us under too much pressure, this despite having a large number of players who are much, much better playing on the front foot.
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    The issue there is, by sitting back, we expose them to increased pressure and the chances of making mistakes increase

    It's nowhere near as bad as the ubermensch, as if we went 1-0 up in the first five minutes we knew what was coming eventually as he sat back immediately, but also says our midfield can't sit on games to shield our defence as required
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Portuguese reports saying we might make a bid for Edwards and have instructed Mendes to facilitate the transfer. Saying Sporting want us to pay €60m but it will essentially be €30m as we have a 50% sell on clause.

    Elsewhere reports saying Emerson had a bust up with a first team coach and he’s now up for sale. Thank you to wherever that coach was, can they say some **** to Doherty and Sessegnon too?
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    There's a lot of red flags about that one

    First of all, Football BSider is the source
    Secondly, no mention of it from Alasdair Gold or Dan Kilpatrick
    Third, no mention of it from Paul O Keefe and he usually jumps on things like that for clout

    Frankly the whole thing looks like SpursWeb boosting a bollocks story to get ad revenue from those suffering from Emerson Derangement Syndrome
     
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  15. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Let's just hope Football Insider get something right for once.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I wonder if this could be something involving Porro's clauses with City?
    Overpay for Edwards and underpay for Porro?
    Wasn't there some suggestion of this with the Kulusevski and Bentancur deal?
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    Given their track record, it's more likely that Djed Spence decked Lenglet

    It's similar to that gibberish that someone from 90mins vomited out last week (as in, I forgot what it was) which SpursWeb amplified while credible aggregators ignored it

    EDIT: Now I remember - it was some bloke who has been Conte Out from the beginning claiming that the Spurs weren't 100% behind Conte as some still want Poch back, which nobody other than SpursWeb amplified
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That whole Emerson story doesn't sound very likely to me, at all.
    Everything that we've seen and heard from him would make it wildly out of character.
    He's supposed to have kept his place in the side because of his training and attitude.
    Paid a load of his own money towards it and is relentlessly positive.

    Maybe he snapped after being dropped following the international break?
    Doesn't sound like him, but we don't get the full picture with players, by any means.
     
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  19. The RDBD

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    Anything that is "zero sum" for the club in both
    letter and spirit of the law is ok with me.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    With Scott Parker taking over at Club Brugge, what're the chances we might want to do him a solid and loan him somebody we'd like to give some minutes to?

    Given the standard of the Jupiler League is roughly comparable to bottom 5 Premier League/Top 8 Championship, we could do worse than get half a season into Djed Spence's legs
     
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