Kenny’s Hollywood Period Over – At least it should be!!!!!!

I will probably get quite a bit of criticism about this post, but firstly it needs to said,and secondly a lot of people agree with me,and the number is increasing week after week,especially at the match

The amount of things we are doing wrong at the moment, is scary
1.Not enough energy chasing down when we havnt got the ball,we should be pressing higher and quicker.If you fit enough to do it, why are you playing for Liverpool.
2.Not enough guys getting in the box, when he have the ball in wide areas
3.Too many touches, not enough 1 and 2 touch football, too many players taking 5/6 touches on the ball meaning opposition can adjust there defensive shape
4.Far too slow on the counter attack, players jogging when they should be sprinting
5.Players not being picked on merit( Bellamy looks lively every time he plays,but rarely starts)
6.Movement,or lack of it, the players,especially the front 4 have to be more mobile, and interchangeable. I am sick of seeing an LFC players in possession, who has no options cos of ****e movement, and then loses the ball or has to pump the ball long, giving away possession.
7.Usually we far too slow with substitutions, and rarely we use all 3 no matter what the score


Some of this is down to the players, but in my eyes the man most responsible is THE MANAGER.He is getting off Scot(haha) free cos as a player he was a legend.Saying that performance isn’t acceptable isn’t good enough,the person whose performance is LEAST acceptable at the moment is yours Kenny. We should be doing the things above,your the one who should be making them gel,and work harder ,and if the players arnt doing the above they shouldn’t be playing for Liverpool
KENNY IS IN CHARGE OF TRANSFERS,TACTICS,COACHING,MOTIVATION.HES HAD £40M NET SPEND IN THE SUMMER.And in my opinion he has made a LOT of mistakes.Some fans seem to be accepting mediocrity cos Kenny is manager.
IMO we should get at least top 4 this season after finishing 6th last year, at the moment , we are miles off.We aren’t as good as Spurs or Arsenal, after a £40m net spend we should be up with City n United, we would be if we bought Mata n Cazorla

IMO, with transfers,some of the signings are looking at best questionable,and at worst shocking.Is Carroll worth £35m, no, do I blame Carroll, no, hes doing is best,its just his best isn’t £35m worth of quality.KENNY is the one who is responsible.Adam,why did Kenny buy a player who was rejected by 3 different Rangers managers,who cant tackle, is unfit,possibly overweight,no pace,and gives the ball away too much,who also loves the Hollywood ball ( thinks he’s Alonso), just a shame when he goes for the long pass it has a success rate of 1 in 10.But it was Kenny who bought him.Is Adam better than Meireles,errrrr no!!!Downing a decent prem player, but world class, err no,we could have bought Cazorla,Mata or both, both would have come.But no,Kenny had the British blinkers on.The game has moved on since 1990, the best Brits are longer enough to be the best players in the prem.The best players are nearly now always foreigners Silva,Suarez,Aguero.You don’t need the British core now,theres players of all nationalities in the top 6.And the Brits who ARE good enough all play for other teams in the top 6.We need more than just Suarez to unlock the door every week,we had the chance,with the money we had, to get that world class player in the final 3rd in the summer .Kenny didn’t get him!!!!!.And the good buys,well was it Comolli who wanted Suarez, I suspect it was, Enrique we only got him when we couldn’t get Clichy, we got very lucky with that one.Bellamy you would have to have been mental not to want a player with his ability on a free

Some Liverpool fans need to finish with the Kenny love in,he was an awesome player,but certainly never an awesome manager.When he took over as manger 1st time it was all set up for him, anybody could have led that side of the late 80’s to success.And to those who say get behind Kenny,I am behind Kenny, but if he makes mistakes, I am not gonna pretend he hasn’t made them them just cos hes Kenny.I LOVE LIVERPOOL TOO MUCH.

Some fans are saying we need a winger in Jan, we need a striker, we need a quality CM.WE DO NEED THESE PLAYERS. But we shouldn’t NEED them, Kenny should have already bought at least some of these players in the summer.The only reason we DO need them is cos the players Kenny DID buy in the summer are proving not to be good enough.

And do I want to go back to Roy, no he was a nightmare,and Kenny is a massive improvement on him.But who wouldn’t be.

Kenny is in charge of making all decisions which lead to team performance and results.And at the moment PERFORMANCES AND RESULTS aint good enough.Sixth position looks very likely and with a £40m net spend, that isn’t good enough.

 

Calm down will you; we lost to blackpool twice last season and we finished in a respectable position.

Before today; in the last 10 matches against newly promoted sides we had lost 6, drawn 2 and won 2. If we convert all of the losses into draws for this season then we'll get an extra 6 points which could mean the difference between top 4 and 5th/6th. We have to accept that at the moment, we haven't turned any major corners but we're also not in the **** and a draw against a good Swansea side is not ideal, but also not that bad.

We don't have a good record against some of the "smaller" teams, we haven't had for a while so it's nothing new to us.

 

Plus, the sky is falling, Chicken Licken. Run away quickly!

I bet you stand at a microwave shouting, "Hurry up!"

 

blimey...i'd hate to be next to the OP, in a real crisis!!!

I wonder if he's stopped to consider, the fact we have a load of new players bedding in? We have to be realistic and except we are a work in progress, to expect instant results is a little naive. Swansea are a decent side, they deserved the draw.

 

Some people are saying sack Dalglish, which I dont agree with.But Kenny has spent £100m since Hodgson, is Kennys side £100m better than Hodgson's.... errrr no!!

 

First of all the idea of sacking Kenny is plain ridiculous. This time last season we were what, 13th? We're 6th now. So that's a non-starter.

Secondly, we are playing good football. Our main problem is our finishing. It's not there when it should be.

Thirdly, what we didn't expect was that Newcastle would be flying so high, and Spurs are doing well. Two more teams we didn't expect to contend with for top 4. Will they be able to sustain it? I don't know. Here's the Newcastle excuse. They haven't played the big boys yet, only the little boys. But we have, and we haven't achieved the right results. So, that excuse - and that's all it is - is also not worth considering.

What I do think is this:

The British player gamble isn't currently working. The new expensive players - Downing for one - are letting us down big time. If I have one criticism of Kenny over this, it is to say that this is 2011 not 1990. It's a different ball game to what it was when he was manager then. The best overseas players are the ones who are winning the clubs their titles and trophies these days. No, I don't like it, either, but that's the way it is. We can't do it with Brits alone, not right now. I don't buy this **** about the team not gelling yet. It's just another excuse. For that sort of money if they don't gel and can't play with their new team mates there's a problem. We have Suarez but we don't want to rely too heavily on him. And this is my other concern. Inasmuch as we see that overseas players are our saviours, they do tend to think with their pockets. Who is to say that Suarez won't do what Torres did, get pissed off with no success at Anfield and do one to citeh for example. I hate to think of him doing it, but it could happen.

Having said all that I can guarantee that Kenny is as pissed off with them as we are today. He should really look at what Newcastle are doing right that we're doing wrong, and he should swallow his pride and look seriously at the likes of Downing who is turning out to be an expensive lemon.

For Kenny Dalglish, knowing the club as well as he does, will want to do everything he can to please the fans and get the best out of the team.

 

Times have changed mate, I think you'll be surprised at how many of the signings made have actually been given the stamp of approval by KK, certainly most weren't hand picked by him. FSG are very new-age and they will expect Comoli to do the buying and Kenny to advise and manage the team, even if this doesn't come across all the time. But I agree, given the transfer movements this summer (mata, Turan, Aguero) and comparisons with how much we spent on who then, apart from the obvious like Enrique and to an extent Adam, I would say we've spent quite poorly IMHO. Hopefully a strengthening in January will come.

 

Newcastle in my opinion,Im not remotely worried about them, any team can have a good run,and they have had good fixtures

But with Spurs and Arsenal, I think they are both better sides than us

With the spend we have had since January, we shouldnt be worrying about top 4, we should be lookin at the league

And as you say, about players being given time to settle,usually, the good players gel/bed in INSTANTLY.Its just some of our signings are ok/decent not Top Class,which is what we should have signed with the money we had

 

I think your mistaken , from what Ive heard mate, Comolli wanted Moussa Sissokho not Adam, he also had 2 meetings with Matas agent(father), one in Madrid and one in Valencia about a month b4 Mata signed for Chelsea.And on Mata's arrival at Chelsea , he said he wasnt interested in signing for Spurs/Arsenal, he mentioned nothing of Liverpool who he would have signed for after 10's of thousands of sign for us messages off LFC fans on twitter.

Also I have heard that the reason with the delay on Dalglish signing his contract back in April, was due to Dalglish wishing to have the final say on transfers.Which FSG didnt want but eventually agreed too

Ask yourself, why did Comolli spend 6 months of last year scoutin the likes of M'Vila,Sissokho,Cazorla,Erikksen,Boudebouz,Hazard,Mata,Griezmann,Payet only for all of our signings except 1 ended up coming from the premier league. Kenny is the reason, he wanted the British core.Comolli thought the country on the pssport was irrelevant

 

Let's be totally honest about 2 things. This time last season the correct word to describe our situation was CRISIS. What we are now describing can be correctly identified as being FRUSTRATION. There's a huge difference between the two.

Secondly, since Kenny came back and with the full agreement of the owners, a long term strategy has been put in place. So all the call for foreign players like Mata, Aguero, etc is rubbish as such purchases run totally contrary to that strategy. Now if strategy has any value it is that it describes long term thinking which should not be dumped at the first sign of stress.

I accept that it is a very frustrating time. We cannot be playing badly if we create far more chances than any other team in the league and offer one of the fewest number of opportunities to our opponents. I don't have the answer. However, I am sure that Dalgliesh and Clarke will be working on that in training day after day.

If we are being truthful then we knew at the start that we were/are work in progress and the 4th spot was our realistic target. There's still a long way to go in this season and many twists and turns to come.

 

If signing Mata was rubbish a pipe dream, why did Comolli speak to his father/agent at least twice

Mata ( and Cazorla plus others)did fall within our transfers strategy otherwise we wouldnt have looked at him.As in he had affordable wages and was young.What does seem apparent is our actual transfer strategy,seems different to what the club seems to tell us it is.Youth is supposed to be the most important thing,which it should be, if thats the case why did we sign 27yo Downing and not 23yo Mata,why did we sign Bellamy and offload the younger Aqualani. What seems to be have been important with Dalglish so far is British/Premier League experience, 6 of our 7 signings came from the premier league, with most being Brits.Signings like Aguero,Mata,Silva and Suarez proves that Premier League experience means nothing.QUALITY IS WHAT COUNTS.

Comolli spent the majority of time between Jan and June scouting various players from all over mainalnd europe.Despite all that time and money spent , we did not buy ONE player from mainland Europe this summer.Comollis time and LFCs money was wasted.Dalglish called the shots in the transfer window,and he is calling the shots with tactics and team selection at the mo.And he should be the main man taking the flack.

But some fans seem to be happy to be 12 points the pace for the league after 11 games,and off the pace for the CL,despite have our largest net transfer spend EVER,our largest gross spend EVER.And all because Kenny is manager.I have no doubt that if Roy was manager now, most fans would be calling for his head

 

why would it be when you get rid of around £70m?

your maths are horrendous.

We've got a lot of new players and some are very young.

These things take time.

 

well yes they are (although net spend is a lot less probably nearer 20 mill) and the football I have seen this year is light years ahead of the trash Hodgson served up (and is now being found out at WBA).
I am as frusrated as anybody at the recent results but lets see where we are after Xmas.Only Spurs have outplayed us this season (and we only had 9 men on the pitch when we went 2 down). There is little doubt that we need a finisher and possibly a right winger with real pace but lets give the others a chance. Adam seems to get a lot of unfair criticism and Downing has looked ok so far. I would like to see more of Bellamy and Enrigue looks a great buy. It's a shame Stevie G has picked up this injury as his energy in midfield is missed.
As for sacking the manager,for goodness sake,this time last year we would have given anything to be where we are now as most of us were considering a relegation scrap.
we just need to hit the net instead of the bloody woodwork. Manure,Chelski and Citeh were all lucky to get 3 points yesterday but they did and we need to do the same. Put the ball in the net and everything will be hunky dory!!!

 

What the hell do you think Comoli's job is? Of course he will be tracking players worldwide. He will be talking diectly and in-directly to clubs, agents etc. The fact that he talked to Mat's agent/father twice is merely par for the course. Perhaps the fact that his father made a public statement saying that the lad would "go to the highrst bidder" turned the Liverpool management off. BTW neither you nor I actually know how many convesrations took place.

Buying players is a replica of the executive headhunter process. There will be many conversations with agents that are merely designed to show an interest. Some of that interest may be strong, some passing and others only intended as a smokescreen. Somtimes Liverpool may even register an interest with a club for a particular player. However, all of that effort is very far from being a formal transfer process.

 

Kenny has done a great job of steadying the ship so give him credit but you will never catch united with him in charge

 

So spake Lettuce - nuff said

 

Spending 12m on Henderson to play him right wing. Come on

 

That's a first. A non-Liverpool fan actually getting the price too low.

 

It's Lettuce - he's about as intelligent as a ****ing goldfish

 

Btw, has nobody pointed out that it's honeymoon and not Hollywood? As far as I'm aware, Kenny would be a **** actor. He can only play a Scotsman. Not that that's stopped Sean Connery, though...