Passions run high when you are knocked out of a major tournament. it really is quite clear the progress we have made. I had a big gripe with Southgate over the Euro final as the negativity cost us the final. I have no problem with last night. We attacked, played well and on another night would of made it over the line. we have some amazing young lads playing for us who I feel will produce. So the question is if not Southgate, then who.
I don’t understand the calls for subs earlier. The 5/10 minutes prior to France scoring their second England were well on top and creating numerous chances. Why would you change it when that is happening? Rashford or Grealish probably wouldn’t have altered the fact that it was a great ball in and France’s all time top scorer is good in the air. Southgate has done a remarkable job. International football is so different in that there is only one successful manager in Europe ever two years. I think it’s vastly unfair to use the defeat to Croatia in 2018 against him because he had a set of players with no experience of deep tournament football playing for him. 2021 he got to our first final. This is huge progression and I don’t buy he had an easy route. The group was tricky with a rival determined to not lose, Germany and Denmark who were having an excellent tournament. It’s disappointing to go ‘backwards’ with a quarter final exit, but it was France. We played well and got a bit unlucky. Yes it feels like a missed chance, but it happens. It doesn’t mean we’re a bad team or Southgate is a bad manager. If that was the case France would have ditched Deschamps after the Euros.
The only people calling for Southgate to go are the morons who ‘support’ Man U and Liverpool, have never been to a game and watch soccer am.
The only thing that does concern me is whether or not Southgate’s ways are getting stale. We saw signs of it in the Nations League and against the US, but the rest of the tournament suggests not. Only the players will be able to answer that really.
Your pathetic acceptance of failure is the English disease of winning the square root of **** all since 1966
I said in 1966 we would not win the World Cup again until we had a Hull City player in the team. And once again I have been right…
I’d call it realism and acceptance that the line between success and failure in terms of tournament wins isn’t straight forward. There’s a huge difference between the last 4 years and the complete waste of the 2 decades between 1996 and 2016.
For those who would sack southgate, I'm sure woy is available. Who would you choose to replace him. That would accept the job
I think people forgot how bad England have been. We where knocked out of Euro 2016 by Iceland and finished bottom of group in 2014. We had won two knock out game since Italia 90 and that was Ecuador and Denmark in normal time. We have good young squad and a manager who gets it.
Is that what you accept a manager incapable of winning a tournament, but you can’t think of any one of dozens of very good managers, so stick with the one with loser written across his forehead, he will never get a job in the Prem, or even the Championship, why not go for Pep, or if he has to be English, Howe.
In all seriousness, how would Southgate have been able to win you over in this tournament? Was a win of the whole trophy the only thing? What if we had a run of easy sides and the performances were terrible?
Just because Southgate hasn’t won a tournament, doesn’t mean he’s incapable of doing so, he’s already taken us closer than any other manager has in over fifty years.
I think the only thing you could fairly question last night ( and it's at a push ) is bringing Stirling on, with him being away from the squad and missing seasons etc, was it the correct change? .... But as I say it's a push. I still think there's a possibility he will make a move away from the manager role and take a more technical role within the FA, who replaces him..... At the min I'm not sure who I'd take or who would want it. If potchettino was serious with his comments then possibly him?
I agree with a lot that’s been said about Southgate. He has improved the team immensely, but look at the talent he’s had to work with. At the end of the day he’s nothing as a player or a manager. Good media man, good coach, good man manager and won’t ever step on the FA’s toes. A man who knows how to win things, he’s not.
Very valid point, but the exact opposite could just as easily be said, just because he's taken us closer then any other manager has in over 50yrs, doesn't mean he's capable of becoming one of the greats by going that one step further and winning a tournament. Both are just as likely and unlikely as each other and it'll all depend on which side of the fence your sitting
We have had a load of managers who knew how to win things for 50 years. But didn’t win with England. We were narrowly beaten by the World Champions which is a far better performance than Germany, Belgium, Spain, Portugal and Brazil put up when going out.
He’s already the second most successful England manager of all time, we’re playing good football and he’s a thoroughly decent bloke. Obviously, he should get the elbow.
