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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. FollowMe&LeedsUnited

    FollowMe&LeedsUnited Well-Known Member

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    Yes my brother is married to a Ukrainian. He had to drive to Budapest to pick up his mum in law and his wife's sister. The stress we all went through as a family whilst they were escaping was horrendous. My brother has just suffered a heart attack a couple of weeks ago with that stress and also my mum dying recently put more stress onto us all.
     
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  2. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    I am so sorry.
     
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  3. brisbane-lion

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    Bugger. Sorry to hear that, mate. That's really sad. :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  4. Brizzlewhite

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    Total and complete bollocks. Give your head a wobble. Ukraine ended up in the Soviet Empire and USSR through invasion and forced annexation, not because they were Russians - after the *****l Empire fell apart the Duchy of Moscow was set up which is the start of Russia as we know it - claiming Ukraine is Russian is like England claiming France except the Russian claim is from 1000 years ago rather than the mere 570 years since England lost France. The only reason there are large numbers of Russians in the Donbas is because Stalin enforced the Holodomor starvation on Ukraine and brought in Russians to replace the dead Ukrainians. That's what Putin is trying now - he wants the land, not the people.
     
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  5. FollowMe&LeedsUnited

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    Thank you
     
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  6. FollowMe&LeedsUnited

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    Thank you
     
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  7. Poly

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  8. Poly

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    What treaty has president Biden broken

    You're confused and thinking of former president Trump who broke a treaty with Iran.
     
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  9. Poly

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    If military support to Ukraine is a laundry bill, it's a hell of a big one.

    By contrast the likes of Germany, Italy, Spain and France prefer to walk around in "dirty clothes".
     
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  10. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Bloody lefty, coming here with your factual corrections.
     
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  11. Poly

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    Left of Trump perhaps.

    Right of centre in British politics.
     
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  12. Brizzlewhite

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    Trump supporters are butthurt because the Zelensky government wouldn't dig any dirt on the Bidens for Trump. Trump illegally withheld $200M+ in military aid to Ukraine in response. Ironic for a family that has publicly known business dealings in Russia and China. There's a strange overlap between the US right and US supporters of Putin.
    The 'broken treaty' is probably the oft peddled Russian lie - Putin has mentioned it a few times - that the US agreed in early 1990 that NATO wouldn't expand eastwards. James Baker discussed it with Gorbachev but it was never in any treaty - but Baker has admitted that he went too far in private discussions. The actual agreement signed in late 1990 allowed foreign based NATO troop to move into the former GDR at the discretion of the German government - nothing to do with other countries. In any case, the discussions didn't cover other countries joining NATO in the future as at the time, those to the east of East Germany were still in the Warsaw Pact, which lasted until mid 1991.
     
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  13. Poly

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    Quite - president Biden has broken no treaties, unlike his predecessor.
     
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  14. Eric Le Merde

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  15. Poly

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    OK, which of those were treaties that the USA broke under Joe Biden's presidency - because I don't see any ?

    Oh and:

    https://2009-2017.state.gov/e/eb/tfs/spi/iran/jcpoa/index.htm
    (last data is 2017)

    https://2009-2017.state.gov/t/avc/newstart/c44126.htm
    (last data 2010)

    Joe Biden did not become president until January 2021.
     
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  16. OLOF

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    And I'll wager a bet you think Sleepy senile Joe is doing a fantastic job along with his cackling thick as pigshit sidekick Cameltoe Harris.
    your TDS is terminal<laugh>
     
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  17. OLOF

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    I've always wondered why US installed puppet Zelensky wouldn't grass on the Bidens dealings in Neo Nazi Ukraine <whistle>
     
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  18. Eric Le Merde

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    I was just being pedantic. In order to break an agreement it has to be current. Trump withdrew from agreements and therefore, in my opinion, he didn't break these agreements he rescinded them. As for Biden I don't know of any agreements he has broken.
     
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  19. esteponawhite

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    Nor does Biden he can't remember.
     
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  20. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    So I guess you don't accept the election results from 2019?

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